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muriel_volestrangler

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42. So that is the first "beast", not an antichrist
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 05:57 PM
Apr 14
And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

9 Whoever has ears, let them hear.

10 “If anyone is to go into captivity,
into captivity they will go.
If anyone is to be killed with the sword,
with the sword they will be killed.”

This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people.

11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2013&version=NIV

I mean, if you're going to insist on a precise definition from biblical wording, then you can't go changing "beast" to "antichrist".

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Is Trump the Antichrist? [View all] thomhartmann Apr 14 OP
He sure is a hell of a piece of shit. Dave Bowman Apr 14 #1
;-{) FIRED Goonch Apr 14 #2
AN Antichrist JCMach1 Apr 14 #3
Yep... kerry-is-my-prez Apr 14 #18
I believe Christ Traildogbob Apr 14 #4
Yes. Not an expert, but many years of Catholic school & teaching. AnotherMother4Peace Apr 14 #5
Anti-sapient. Solly Mack Apr 14 #6
No, he ForgedCrank Apr 14 #7
Does it have to be followed by the whole population? kerry-is-my-prez Apr 14 #20
It's from ForgedCrank Apr 14 #23
Where does that come from? muriel_volestrangler Apr 14 #26
By that definition there are hundreds of thousands "antichrists" all over the world MorbidButterflyTat Apr 14 #32
I reckon that if someone takes the word seriously, they have to either work with what it says in the Bible muriel_volestrangler Apr 14 #36
Revelation 13:8 ForgedCrank Apr 14 #38
So that is the first "beast", not an antichrist muriel_volestrangler Apr 14 #42
I'm not ForgedCrank Apr 14 #43
The thing is, in reply #7 you were arguing for a precise interpretation of scripture muriel_volestrangler Apr 15 #44
Ah, I see, ForgedCrank Apr 15 #46
No ABC123Easy Apr 14 #8
Intelligent and successful in his SuperDuperConMan life, he is. Justice matters. Apr 14 #19
If ABC123Easy Apr 14 #37
Kick usonian Apr 14 #9
Kick dalton99a Apr 14 #10
If he isn't, then no_hypocrisy Apr 14 #11
Giving him far too much credit orangecrush Apr 14 #12
He is an agent of satan kimbutgar Apr 14 #13
No, he's human and is going to die. Hopefully soon. surfered Apr 14 #14
Yes clevergrrrl Apr 14 #15
No TxGuitar Apr 14 #16
Why even ask? GaYellowDawg Apr 14 #17
If Anyone Is DET Apr 14 #21
He's an AntiChrist. haele Apr 14 #22
Christ is definitely AntiTrump Seinan Sensei Apr 14 #24
I have a sneaking suspicion that Donald wants.... OGBuzz Apr 14 #25
He is schizophrenic liberal N proud Apr 14 #27
He is certainly very devil may care Blue Owl Apr 14 #28
I dunno. Did the antiChrist have chronic explosive diarrhea? Sibelius Fan Apr 14 #29
I wasn't raised Christian fujiyamasan Apr 15 #45
No. MorbidButterflyTat Apr 14 #30
The way i look at this is, If you believe him to be the Anti Christ, you have to believe there is a God. bluestarone Apr 14 #31
People are asking. Ferrets are Cool Apr 14 #33
I don't think the antichrist would be stupid. Sneederbunk Apr 14 #34
665 and 1/2 harumph Apr 14 #35
The way I figure it B.See Apr 14 #39
He is a dunderhead. n/t Jacson6 Apr 14 #40
The Antichrist is supposed to die and resurrect three days later, mimicking the Christ. Tbear Apr 14 #41
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