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deurbano

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118. I have counter evidence for the last sentence. My daughter endorsed Swalwell before hearing any rumors, then "quickly
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 01:02 PM
14 hrs ago

unedorse[d]" after seeing the evidence in the SF Chronicle and on CNN. She was devastated to learn what the young women had experienced, in addition to feeling the weight of having endorsed the person who caused them such harm. She didn't so "quickly unendorse" because she "consciously or unconsciously" had "an inking that [she] might have to do so in the future," but based on what she learned in those pieces. When she first began to hear the (rather vague) rumors about Swalwell a couple of weeks ago, she assumed (hoped) they were just dirty tricks, but still began talking with others in the party to see if there could be any truth to them; she didn't get that confirmation until the Chronicle and CNN pieces last Friday. [My daughter just told me she actually rescinded her endorsement at 2:15 pm on Friday, just based on the Chron article.] Obviously, I can't speak to what others knew, but I can guarantee one endorser was as shocked as (most of) the rest of us.

I posted this in an earlier reply:

My daughter is a CA Dem delegate and a caucus chair, and she had never heard those rumors.

The campaign asked for her endorsement a couple of weeks before the recent revelations and she gave it. (Felt terrible about that later, and of course, rescinded.) My daughter liked Swalwell, but had been hoping to vote for Kamala or Eleni (currently Lt. Gov.), so was disappointed when they chose not to run.

What she has since learned (just yesterday!) is that there were rumors he was a cheater. But she had talked with someone higher up in the party last week (as this was unfolding less publicly), who knows Swalwell somewhat, and that person hadn't heard even that.... so I don't think "everybody" knew even that less damaging (but still damaging) part about him being a cheater. When they were trying to figure out the veracity of the allegations (before the Chronicle and CNN pieces made the situation much clearer), that person told my daughter that maybe he could be considered flirtatious. NOT a groomer of young women or rapist, or even the cheating part. It may only be people in his targeted demographic who knew the first part, and "some" who knew the cheating part. My daughter is not unconnected, and we live in the Bay Area, and she didn't know that, and this other person, who is more connected, was also unaware.

I think we have to have zero tolerance for cheating, though. If enough people knew he was cheating that some thought he was "known" as a cheater, that's demonstrates he was reckless, and also he could be blackmailed. (Even without the alleged criminal behavior or grooming.) KNOWING he had a huge Republican target on his back, and how they were still hammering him about supposedly sleeping with a Chinese agent...I mean, forgetting the immorality of cheating (and the betrayal of wife and family)... and setting aside the much more serious grooming and criminal allegations... at least he could have been discreet enough (when "just" cheating) that there were no "rumors" about his behavior. So, even for candidates/electeds who are not engaging in criminal or exploitive behavior, the cheating itself (especially if "known" to some, and especially "serial" cheating) should be disqualifying. We are in precarious times and can't afford unnecessary distractions, so candidates/incumbents who don't have the requisite impulse control to refrain from cheating while in office should also not be tolerated.

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KNR niyad 19 hrs ago #1
Tribes protect valuable members. OC375 19 hrs ago #2
It's California Bettie 19 hrs ago #4
Agreed. OC375 19 hrs ago #5
Which makes the question posed in the article even more compelling. yardwork 18 hrs ago #12
If this was known Bettie 19 hrs ago #3
Yes. "Open Secret?" I certainly had not heard the rumblings but perhaps within the beltway... hlthe2b 19 hrs ago #6
"So, yeah. It appears the pump was fully primed on Friday within the circles who fully "knew" but amazing to me, did not WhiskeyGrinder 18 hrs ago #8
I Believe The Term Refers To Those Working With Or For Swalwell, Not "Us". ColoringFool 16 hrs ago #78
My daughter is a CA Dem delegate and a caucus chair, and she had never heard those rumors. deurbano 16 hrs ago #93
I concur. In this world there are "upstanders" snd Ninga 15 hrs ago #104
I have never come across any decent humans who are cheaters jfz9580m 13 hrs ago #124
Same here.... I guess 'open secret' meant within the House of Reps ONLY--- Jack Valentino 4 hrs ago #145
Exactly WSHazel 18 hrs ago #7
One of the reasons I didn't quite believe it at first Bettie 18 hrs ago #9
Madoff is the epitome of this behavior WSHazel 17 hrs ago #59
Broken stair analogy, plus organizations like to hold on to high performers, even when they're terrible people. WhiskeyGrinder 18 hrs ago #10
And the biggest missing stair in our politics happens to be President! (n/t) thesquanderer 16 hrs ago #94
Arnold Schwarzenegger fathered a son with the family's housekeeper, kept the child a secret while he was sop 18 hrs ago #11
The sad fact is that a lot of men get away with it. yardwork 18 hrs ago #16
Thank you jfz9580m 18 hrs ago #27
Just to be clear, a lot of the "wait and see" was about not SEEING all the facts yet RandomNumbers 18 hrs ago #28
Wait and see is one thing. yardwork 18 hrs ago #31
Yes, I agree with you on that point. RandomNumbers 18 hrs ago #35
It has helped me make a final decision jfz9580m 16 hrs ago #77
"Immediately blaming every woman in sight is something else." MorbidButterflyTat 13 hrs ago #123
Nope. I'm not calling out any DUer. yardwork 12 hrs ago #128
There was someone here yesterday asking what was expected if a drunk woman goes to a man's hotel room EdmondDantes_ 17 hrs ago #45
Should be asking, why would a responsible man RandomNumbers 17 hrs ago #67
More than one poster suggested that the bank accounts of the victims needed to be investigated MichMan 17 hrs ago #68
The question was MorbidButterflyTat 13 hrs ago #125
That's not the post I was referring to EdmondDantes_ 11 hrs ago #129
I have seen post, that in my opinion suggest voting for him Lifeafter70 17 hrs ago #60
That's what stood out to me jfz9580m 16 hrs ago #82
It is VERY sad that a Democrat who has been so effective against Trump, Jack Valentino 4 hrs ago #146
Based on Arnold, obviously he had a good reason to think so. LisaL 17 hrs ago #62
I had no idea this was an open secret. Disgusting. Passages 18 hrs ago #13
People thought the party was taking crazy pills Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #14
I imagine the Republicans were hoping he'd be the nominee. yardwork 18 hrs ago #17
I still haven't heard a credible explanation from "The timing is suspicious!" crowd Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #19
There was a spontaneous eruption of that phrase on DU. yardwork 18 hrs ago #20
Hasn't hurt many of the GOP members samplegirl 18 hrs ago #15
The death of accountability is a good headline. yardwork 18 hrs ago #18
The difference between virtue signalling and actual virtue on full display Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #21
And every other woman in sight was blamed, too. yardwork 18 hrs ago #23
I think Katie Porter will actually be hurt by this Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #25
Absolutely. She's getting the Hillary Clinton Kamala Harris treatment. yardwork 18 hrs ago #37
There's another element here. She's running against a man people liked a lot who turned out to be a dog. Scrivener7 17 hrs ago #44
On the other hand - I suspect many Democratic voters will now see her as more of a sure bet peppertree 17 hrs ago #54
As a former CA member of the House, she was in karynnj 16 hrs ago #92
Probably true. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #102
OMG, nobody said anything like that on here. MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #135
She clearly is being hit on this karynnj 16 hrs ago #90
Tribal reaction. Dems are not immune from it. paleotn 17 hrs ago #49
Exactly! This is not a game, folks. paleotn 17 hrs ago #43
there's been nothing but accountability from the party and Dem supporters, including Swalwell's bigtree 5 hrs ago #143
nothing in that article backed up the claim that 'His sexual misconduct was an open secret' bigtree 18 hrs ago #22
It was very much an open secret Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #24
That's sad. I wonder if this was known more than locally? Many will blow it off as "just gossip" LeftInTX 18 hrs ago #32
Unfortunately, it seems to be considered 'acceptable' for men to behave like that RandomNumbers 18 hrs ago #33
For years. Incredible, one would imagine he was the only politician they could back. Passages 18 hrs ago #36
Why encourage him to run for governor? MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #132
"Everybody just turned a blind eye and went about their lives for years?" Sympthsical 8 hrs ago #137
Kevin MCarthy on CNN question everything 17 hrs ago #52
not one of the sources I'd trust for anything bigtree 16 hrs ago #85
Whatever else is true about how "known" Swalwell's behavior was, My Kevin is not a reliable reporter. deurbano 15 hrs ago #99
Kevin MCarthy??? MorbidButterflyTat 11 hrs ago #131
I noticed the word "misconduct" people knew of his "misconduct" and chose to ignore it. But "misconduct" has now Ninga 17 hrs ago #66
Stop blaming Nancy Pelosi. yardwork 16 hrs ago #79
Excuse me. There are "upstanders" and "bystanders" Ninga 15 hrs ago #107
Exactly. No matter their last name or gender. N/T AloeVera 14 hrs ago #120
"Inappropriate" behaviour by a person in power is grooming. AloeVera 14 hrs ago #119
Here is a possible explanation karynnj 15 hrs ago #96
it's not clear anyone knew except the people claiming it was well known bigtree 14 hrs ago #121
Just because you didn't know... Random Boomer 15 hrs ago #100
internet gossip bigtree 14 hrs ago #122
There is this tweet from Dec 2025 LeftInTX 18 hrs ago #26
great reply Celerity 18 hrs ago #29
what did he do with that information bigtree 17 hrs ago #41
The answer is right in the article. Nanjeanne 17 hrs ago #47
more background as well Celerity 17 hrs ago #57
He's an interesting read. Did you see this one? Sympthsical 17 hrs ago #69
I figured as much. Unless Becerra finds rocket fuel and blows up out of his months-long 2 to 5 per cent level, it looks, Celerity 16 hrs ago #88
I see the problem with Becerra Sympthsical 15 hrs ago #97
"...what did both of these men do other than this political chit-chat on social media?" WhiskeyGrinder 17 hrs ago #48
that's still just conjecture bigtree 16 hrs ago #86
Because the victims had to come forward Sympthsical 17 hrs ago #51
That's how it was with Tony Gonzales. LeftInTX 17 hrs ago #70
Yep. Just like Weinstein and Ronan Farrow Sympthsical 16 hrs ago #81
The comments made by some poster here Lifeafter70 16 hrs ago #72
Humans gonna human Sympthsical 16 hrs ago #84
Threat of lawsuit? RoseTrellis 17 hrs ago #65
Wow. Passages 17 hrs ago #42
The Democratic Party doesn't allow this kind of behavor. Escape 18 hrs ago #30
True. Shades of Gary Hart. peppertree 17 hrs ago #46
Wait-a-sec mr715 15 hrs ago #111
Sure. peppertree 14 hrs ago #113
I'll have to check out Ms. Kelley's book. mr715 14 hrs ago #114
That could have something to do with it peppertree 14 hrs ago #116
Thanks for the insight mr715 10 hrs ago #133
You're very welcome peppertree 6 hrs ago #140
Well, The Democratic Party Apparently Does So "Allow," Until...., ColoringFool 16 hrs ago #80
True - but at least they have limits peppertree 15 hrs ago #105
Sent me to the all knowing internet to find out who Rielle Hunter is... Escape 9 hrs ago #136
Nobody wants to be the messenger. milestogo 18 hrs ago #34
That's true... LeftInTX 18 hrs ago #38
The Gary Hart of our times peppertree 18 hrs ago #39
My exact thought this morning. paleotn 17 hrs ago #50
Gary Hart may have been a reckless philanderer, but Jose Garcia 17 hrs ago #56
There's still issues of consent going after a parade of young women EdmondDantes_ 16 hrs ago #95
I believe the House introduced a resolution in 2018 prohibiting any sexual contact between a member and staff MichMan 15 hrs ago #103
Luckily for Lady G, it didn't apply to the Senate peppertree 15 hrs ago #106
"Accountability" only applies to Democrats. valleyrogue 18 hrs ago #40
Sad - but true. And you see that in many other democracies. peppertree 15 hrs ago #108
Gandhi??? LeftInTX 13 hrs ago #126
So Gandhi was quite the dandy. peppertree 6 hrs ago #141
Scene from the 1933 movie 42nd Street LeftInTX 5 hrs ago #144
If party leadership knew about this & didn't discourage him from running for gov, then they're complicit, too. CrispyQ 17 hrs ago #53
That's the part that got me Tree Lady 16 hrs ago #74
The weird thing is jfz9580m 17 hrs ago #55
He is resigning. Accountability is taking place. Martin68 17 hrs ago #58
Philandering is one thing but Billsdaughter 17 hrs ago #61
"Was an open secret for a long time" sunnybrook 17 hrs ago #63
The open secret appears to have been that he was sleeping around while married. LisaL 17 hrs ago #64
If higher ups in the party knew, they shouldn't have encouraged him to run for governor. LeftInTX 16 hrs ago #76
I agree. LisaL 16 hrs ago #83
I'd like to see those sources too MorbidButterflyTat 11 hrs ago #130
I think a lot of people just liked that Swalwell that was an attack dog against Trump and didn't care about much else MichMan 17 hrs ago #71
Too many people repeat everything Trump says and seem to believe it as well Just_Vote_Dem 16 hrs ago #75
that's not evident in anything bigtree 16 hrs ago #87
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan 15 hrs ago #98
"The rumors that are being discussed as being generally known are of consensual relationships, not sexual assault or WhiskeyGrinder 15 hrs ago #101
I never understood the Avenatti stanning. He always seemed like a plonker to me. I certianly never got invested in the Celerity 16 hrs ago #91
DURec leftstreet 16 hrs ago #73
I'm not a fan of situational ethics. democrank 16 hrs ago #89
Yes. And a horror I have heard applauded jfz9580m 15 hrs ago #112
How soon we forget Edwards and other Dem 'womanizers' JCMach1 15 hrs ago #109
How soon we forget Edwards and other Dem 'womanizers' JCMach1 15 hrs ago #110
I mean like, what 50 year old man sends dick pics to his girlfriends? Jersey Devil 14 hrs ago #115
This is another dispiriting revelation peggysue2 14 hrs ago #117
Power does strange things to some people MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #139
I have counter evidence for the last sentence. My daughter endorsed Swalwell before hearing any rumors, then "quickly deurbano 14 hrs ago #118
Obviously most of us (in general public) LisaL 12 hrs ago #127
I certainly did not, even thoI fancy myself to be rather well informed. 3catwoman3 10 hrs ago #134
With all due respect Sympthsical 8 hrs ago #138
As The "Old Folks" Say..........🎶........ ColoringFool 6 hrs ago #142
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