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116. That could have something to do with it

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 12:51 PM

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I have a distant link to the House of Savoy (the Italian royal family until 1945), and am a little bisexual myself - though I've never acted on it.

Besides his trickle-down nonsense and proclivity to war, what bothered me about Bush at the time (I was in high school - and had been bullied a good bit), is that he very much made a battle horse of "family values" - knowing that he himself was far from that ideal.

Small potatoes compared to Cheeto's Idi Amin-style depravity though.

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Eric Swalwell and the Death of Accountability [View all] Celerity Yesterday OP

KNR niyad Yesterday #1

Tribes protect valuable members. OC375 Yesterday #2

It's California Bettie Yesterday #4

Agreed. OC375 Yesterday #5

Which makes the question posed in the article even more compelling. yardwork Yesterday #12

If this was known Bettie Yesterday #3

Yes. "Open Secret?" I certainly had not heard the rumblings but perhaps within the beltway... hlthe2b Yesterday #6

"So, yeah. It appears the pump was fully primed on Friday within the circles who fully "knew" but amazing to me, did not WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #8

I Believe The Term Refers To Those Working With Or For Swalwell, Not "Us". ColoringFool Yesterday #78

My daughter is a CA Dem delegate and a caucus chair, and she had never heard those rumors. deurbano Yesterday #93

I concur. In this world there are "upstanders" snd Ninga Yesterday #104

I have never come across any decent humans who are cheaters jfz9580m Yesterday #124

Same here.... I guess 'open secret' meant within the House of Reps ONLY--- Jack Valentino 16 hrs ago #145

Exactly WSHazel Yesterday #7

One of the reasons I didn't quite believe it at first Bettie Yesterday #9

Madoff is the epitome of this behavior WSHazel Yesterday #59

Broken stair analogy, plus organizations like to hold on to high performers, even when they're terrible people. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #10

And the biggest missing stair in our politics happens to be President! (n/t) thesquanderer Yesterday #94

Arnold Schwarzenegger fathered a son with the family's housekeeper, kept the child a secret while he was sop Yesterday #11

The sad fact is that a lot of men get away with it. yardwork Yesterday #16

Thank you jfz9580m Yesterday #27

Just to be clear, a lot of the "wait and see" was about not SEEING all the facts yet RandomNumbers Yesterday #28

Wait and see is one thing. yardwork Yesterday #31

Yes, I agree with you on that point. RandomNumbers Yesterday #35

It has helped me make a final decision jfz9580m Yesterday #77

"Immediately blaming every woman in sight is something else." MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #123

Nope. I'm not calling out any DUer. yardwork 23 hrs ago #128

There was someone here yesterday asking what was expected if a drunk woman goes to a man's hotel room EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #45

Should be asking, why would a responsible man RandomNumbers Yesterday #67

More than one poster suggested that the bank accounts of the victims needed to be investigated MichMan Yesterday #68

The question was MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #125

That's not the post I was referring to EdmondDantes_ 23 hrs ago #129

I have seen post, that in my opinion suggest voting for him Lifeafter70 Yesterday #60

That's what stood out to me jfz9580m Yesterday #82

It is VERY sad that a Democrat who has been so effective against Trump, Jack Valentino 16 hrs ago #146

Based on Arnold, obviously he had a good reason to think so. LisaL Yesterday #62

I had no idea this was an open secret. Disgusting. Passages Yesterday #13

People thought the party was taking crazy pills Sympthsical Yesterday #14

I imagine the Republicans were hoping he'd be the nominee. yardwork Yesterday #17

I still haven't heard a credible explanation from "The timing is suspicious!" crowd Sympthsical Yesterday #19

There was a spontaneous eruption of that phrase on DU. yardwork Yesterday #20

Hasn't hurt many of the GOP members samplegirl Yesterday #15

The death of accountability is a good headline. yardwork Yesterday #18

The difference between virtue signalling and actual virtue on full display Sympthsical Yesterday #21

And every other woman in sight was blamed, too. yardwork Yesterday #23

I think Katie Porter will actually be hurt by this Scrivener7 Yesterday #25

Absolutely. She's getting the Hillary Clinton Kamala Harris treatment. yardwork Yesterday #37

There's another element here. She's running against a man people liked a lot who turned out to be a dog. Scrivener7 Yesterday #44

On the other hand - I suspect many Democratic voters will now see her as more of a sure bet peppertree Yesterday #54

As a former CA member of the House, she was in karynnj Yesterday #92

Probably true. Scrivener7 Yesterday #102

OMG, nobody said anything like that on here. MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #135

She clearly is being hit on this karynnj Yesterday #90

Tribal reaction. Dems are not immune from it. paleotn Yesterday #49

Exactly! This is not a game, folks. paleotn Yesterday #43

there's been nothing but accountability from the party and Dem supporters, including Swalwell's bigtree 17 hrs ago #143

nothing in that article backed up the claim that 'His sexual misconduct was an open secret' bigtree Yesterday #22

It was very much an open secret Sympthsical Yesterday #24

That's sad. I wonder if this was known more than locally? Many will blow it off as "just gossip" LeftInTX Yesterday #32

Unfortunately, it seems to be considered 'acceptable' for men to behave like that RandomNumbers Yesterday #33

For years. Incredible, one would imagine he was the only politician they could back. Passages Yesterday #36

Why encourage him to run for governor? MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #132

"Everybody just turned a blind eye and went about their lives for years?" Sympthsical 20 hrs ago #137

Kevin MCarthy on CNN question everything Yesterday #52

not one of the sources I'd trust for anything bigtree Yesterday #85

Whatever else is true about how "known" Swalwell's behavior was, My Kevin is not a reliable reporter. deurbano Yesterday #99

Kevin MCarthy??? MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #131

I noticed the word "misconduct" people knew of his "misconduct" and chose to ignore it. But "misconduct" has now Ninga Yesterday #66

Stop blaming Nancy Pelosi. yardwork Yesterday #79

Excuse me. There are "upstanders" and "bystanders" Ninga Yesterday #107

Exactly. No matter their last name or gender. N/T AloeVera Yesterday #120

"Inappropriate" behaviour by a person in power is grooming. AloeVera Yesterday #119

Here is a possible explanation karynnj Yesterday #96

it's not clear anyone knew except the people claiming it was well known bigtree Yesterday #121

Just because you didn't know... Random Boomer Yesterday #100

internet gossip bigtree Yesterday #122

There is this tweet from Dec 2025 LeftInTX Yesterday #26

great reply Celerity Yesterday #29

what did he do with that information bigtree Yesterday #41

The answer is right in the article. Nanjeanne Yesterday #47

more background as well Celerity Yesterday #57

He's an interesting read. Did you see this one? Sympthsical Yesterday #69

I figured as much. Unless Becerra finds rocket fuel and blows up out of his months-long 2 to 5 per cent level, it looks, Celerity Yesterday #88

I see the problem with Becerra Sympthsical Yesterday #97

"...what did both of these men do other than this political chit-chat on social media?" WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #48

that's still just conjecture bigtree Yesterday #86

Because the victims had to come forward Sympthsical Yesterday #51

That's how it was with Tony Gonzales. LeftInTX Yesterday #70

Yep. Just like Weinstein and Ronan Farrow Sympthsical Yesterday #81

The comments made by some poster here Lifeafter70 Yesterday #72

Humans gonna human Sympthsical Yesterday #84

Threat of lawsuit? RoseTrellis Yesterday #65

Wow. Passages Yesterday #42

The Democratic Party doesn't allow this kind of behavor. Escape Yesterday #30

True. Shades of Gary Hart. peppertree Yesterday #46

Wait-a-sec mr715 Yesterday #111

Sure. peppertree Yesterday #113

I'll have to check out Ms. Kelley's book. mr715 Yesterday #114

That could have something to do with it peppertree Yesterday #116

Thanks for the insight mr715 22 hrs ago #133

You're very welcome peppertree 18 hrs ago #140

Well, The Democratic Party Apparently Does So "Allow," Until...., ColoringFool Yesterday #80

True - but at least they have limits peppertree Yesterday #105

Sent me to the all knowing internet to find out who Rielle Hunter is... Escape 21 hrs ago #136

Nobody wants to be the messenger. milestogo Yesterday #34

That's true... LeftInTX Yesterday #38

The Gary Hart of our times peppertree Yesterday #39

My exact thought this morning. paleotn Yesterday #50

Gary Hart may have been a reckless philanderer, but Jose Garcia Yesterday #56

There's still issues of consent going after a parade of young women EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #95

I believe the House introduced a resolution in 2018 prohibiting any sexual contact between a member and staff MichMan Yesterday #103

Luckily for Lady G, it didn't apply to the Senate peppertree Yesterday #106

"Accountability" only applies to Democrats. valleyrogue Yesterday #40

Sad - but true. And you see that in many other democracies. peppertree Yesterday #108

Gandhi??? LeftInTX Yesterday #126

So Gandhi was quite the dandy. peppertree 18 hrs ago #141

Scene from the 1933 movie 42nd Street LeftInTX 17 hrs ago #144

If party leadership knew about this & didn't discourage him from running for gov, then they're complicit, too. CrispyQ Yesterday #53

That's the part that got me Tree Lady Yesterday #74

The weird thing is jfz9580m Yesterday #55

He is resigning. Accountability is taking place. Martin68 Yesterday #58

Philandering is one thing but Billsdaughter Yesterday #61

"Was an open secret for a long time" sunnybrook Yesterday #63

The open secret appears to have been that he was sleeping around while married. LisaL Yesterday #64

If higher ups in the party knew, they shouldn't have encouraged him to run for governor. LeftInTX Yesterday #76

I agree. LisaL Yesterday #83

I'd like to see those sources too MorbidButterflyTat 23 hrs ago #130

I think a lot of people just liked that Swalwell that was an attack dog against Trump and didn't care about much else MichMan Yesterday #71

Too many people repeat everything Trump says and seem to believe it as well Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #75

that's not evident in anything bigtree Yesterday #87

This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Yesterday #98

"The rumors that are being discussed as being generally known are of consensual relationships, not sexual assault or WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #101

I never understood the Avenatti stanning. He always seemed like a plonker to me. I certianly never got invested in the Celerity Yesterday #91

DURec leftstreet Yesterday #73

I'm not a fan of situational ethics. democrank Yesterday #89

Yes. And a horror I have heard applauded jfz9580m Yesterday #112

How soon we forget Edwards and other Dem 'womanizers' JCMach1 Yesterday #109

How soon we forget Edwards and other Dem 'womanizers' JCMach1 Yesterday #110

I mean like, what 50 year old man sends dick pics to his girlfriends? Jersey Devil Yesterday #115

This is another dispiriting revelation peggysue2 Yesterday #117

Power does strange things to some people MustLoveBeagles 20 hrs ago #139

I have counter evidence for the last sentence. My daughter endorsed Swalwell before hearing any rumors, then "quickly deurbano Yesterday #118

Obviously most of us (in general public) LisaL Yesterday #127

I certainly did not, even thoI fancy myself to be rather well informed. 3catwoman3 22 hrs ago #134

With all due respect Sympthsical 20 hrs ago #138

As The "Old Folks" Say..........🎶........ ColoringFool 17 hrs ago #142