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karynnj

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96. Here is a possible explanation
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 11:33 AM
19 hrs ago

What if what they KNEW was that he had consensual affairs and made suggestive comments that were inappropriate, but not illegal, but they did not think they reached the level of harassment. Even his statement speaks of actions he apologized for, while rejecting what he characterized as untrue allegations.

What was different here is that the charges are criminal if they are proven. Their knowledge of his known behavior and the fact that she was a former staffer and her claims show that, even if consensual, were wrong because he was her boss.

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KNR niyad 22 hrs ago #1
Tribes protect valuable members. OC375 22 hrs ago #2
It's California Bettie 22 hrs ago #4
Agreed. OC375 22 hrs ago #5
Which makes the question posed in the article even more compelling. yardwork 22 hrs ago #12
If this was known Bettie 22 hrs ago #3
Yes. "Open Secret?" I certainly had not heard the rumblings but perhaps within the beltway... hlthe2b 22 hrs ago #6
"So, yeah. It appears the pump was fully primed on Friday within the circles who fully "knew" but amazing to me, did not WhiskeyGrinder 22 hrs ago #8
I Believe The Term Refers To Those Working With Or For Swalwell, Not "Us". ColoringFool 20 hrs ago #78
My daughter is a CA Dem delegate and a caucus chair, and she had never heard those rumors. deurbano 19 hrs ago #93
I concur. In this world there are "upstanders" snd Ninga 19 hrs ago #104
I have never come across any decent humans who are cheaters jfz9580m 17 hrs ago #124
Same here.... I guess 'open secret' meant within the House of Reps ONLY--- Jack Valentino 8 hrs ago #145
Exactly WSHazel 22 hrs ago #7
One of the reasons I didn't quite believe it at first Bettie 22 hrs ago #9
Madoff is the epitome of this behavior WSHazel 20 hrs ago #59
Broken stair analogy, plus organizations like to hold on to high performers, even when they're terrible people. WhiskeyGrinder 22 hrs ago #10
And the biggest missing stair in our politics happens to be President! (n/t) thesquanderer 19 hrs ago #94
Arnold Schwarzenegger fathered a son with the family's housekeeper, kept the child a secret while he was sop 22 hrs ago #11
The sad fact is that a lot of men get away with it. yardwork 22 hrs ago #16
Thank you jfz9580m 21 hrs ago #27
Just to be clear, a lot of the "wait and see" was about not SEEING all the facts yet RandomNumbers 21 hrs ago #28
Wait and see is one thing. yardwork 21 hrs ago #31
Yes, I agree with you on that point. RandomNumbers 21 hrs ago #35
It has helped me make a final decision jfz9580m 20 hrs ago #77
"Immediately blaming every woman in sight is something else." MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #123
Nope. I'm not calling out any DUer. yardwork 15 hrs ago #128
There was someone here yesterday asking what was expected if a drunk woman goes to a man's hotel room EdmondDantes_ 21 hrs ago #45
Should be asking, why would a responsible man RandomNumbers 20 hrs ago #67
More than one poster suggested that the bank accounts of the victims needed to be investigated MichMan 20 hrs ago #68
The question was MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #125
That's not the post I was referring to EdmondDantes_ 15 hrs ago #129
I have seen post, that in my opinion suggest voting for him Lifeafter70 20 hrs ago #60
That's what stood out to me jfz9580m 20 hrs ago #82
It is VERY sad that a Democrat who has been so effective against Trump, Jack Valentino 8 hrs ago #146
Based on Arnold, obviously he had a good reason to think so. LisaL 20 hrs ago #62
I had no idea this was an open secret. Disgusting. Passages 22 hrs ago #13
People thought the party was taking crazy pills Sympthsical 22 hrs ago #14
I imagine the Republicans were hoping he'd be the nominee. yardwork 22 hrs ago #17
I still haven't heard a credible explanation from "The timing is suspicious!" crowd Sympthsical 22 hrs ago #19
There was a spontaneous eruption of that phrase on DU. yardwork 21 hrs ago #20
Hasn't hurt many of the GOP members samplegirl 22 hrs ago #15
The death of accountability is a good headline. yardwork 22 hrs ago #18
The difference between virtue signalling and actual virtue on full display Sympthsical 21 hrs ago #21
And every other woman in sight was blamed, too. yardwork 21 hrs ago #23
I think Katie Porter will actually be hurt by this Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #25
Absolutely. She's getting the Hillary Clinton Kamala Harris treatment. yardwork 21 hrs ago #37
There's another element here. She's running against a man people liked a lot who turned out to be a dog. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #44
On the other hand - I suspect many Democratic voters will now see her as more of a sure bet peppertree 21 hrs ago #54
As a former CA member of the House, she was in karynnj 19 hrs ago #92
Probably true. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #102
OMG, nobody said anything like that on here. MorbidButterflyTat 13 hrs ago #135
She clearly is being hit on this karynnj 19 hrs ago #90
Tribal reaction. Dems are not immune from it. paleotn 21 hrs ago #49
Exactly! This is not a game, folks. paleotn 21 hrs ago #43
there's been nothing but accountability from the party and Dem supporters, including Swalwell's bigtree 9 hrs ago #143
nothing in that article backed up the claim that 'His sexual misconduct was an open secret' bigtree 21 hrs ago #22
It was very much an open secret Sympthsical 21 hrs ago #24
That's sad. I wonder if this was known more than locally? Many will blow it off as "just gossip" LeftInTX 21 hrs ago #32
Unfortunately, it seems to be considered 'acceptable' for men to behave like that RandomNumbers 21 hrs ago #33
For years. Incredible, one would imagine he was the only politician they could back. Passages 21 hrs ago #36
Why encourage him to run for governor? MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #132
"Everybody just turned a blind eye and went about their lives for years?" Sympthsical 12 hrs ago #137
Kevin MCarthy on CNN question everything 21 hrs ago #52
not one of the sources I'd trust for anything bigtree 20 hrs ago #85
Whatever else is true about how "known" Swalwell's behavior was, My Kevin is not a reliable reporter. deurbano 19 hrs ago #99
Kevin MCarthy??? MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #131
I noticed the word "misconduct" people knew of his "misconduct" and chose to ignore it. But "misconduct" has now Ninga 20 hrs ago #66
Stop blaming Nancy Pelosi. yardwork 20 hrs ago #79
Excuse me. There are "upstanders" and "bystanders" Ninga 19 hrs ago #107
Exactly. No matter their last name or gender. N/T AloeVera 17 hrs ago #120
"Inappropriate" behaviour by a person in power is grooming. AloeVera 17 hrs ago #119
Here is a possible explanation karynnj 19 hrs ago #96
it's not clear anyone knew except the people claiming it was well known bigtree 17 hrs ago #121
Just because you didn't know... Random Boomer 19 hrs ago #100
internet gossip bigtree 17 hrs ago #122
There is this tweet from Dec 2025 LeftInTX 21 hrs ago #26
great reply Celerity 21 hrs ago #29
what did he do with that information bigtree 21 hrs ago #41
The answer is right in the article. Nanjeanne 21 hrs ago #47
more background as well Celerity 21 hrs ago #57
He's an interesting read. Did you see this one? Sympthsical 20 hrs ago #69
I figured as much. Unless Becerra finds rocket fuel and blows up out of his months-long 2 to 5 per cent level, it looks, Celerity 19 hrs ago #88
I see the problem with Becerra Sympthsical 19 hrs ago #97
"...what did both of these men do other than this political chit-chat on social media?" WhiskeyGrinder 21 hrs ago #48
that's still just conjecture bigtree 20 hrs ago #86
Because the victims had to come forward Sympthsical 21 hrs ago #51
That's how it was with Tony Gonzales. LeftInTX 20 hrs ago #70
Yep. Just like Weinstein and Ronan Farrow Sympthsical 20 hrs ago #81
The comments made by some poster here Lifeafter70 20 hrs ago #72
Humans gonna human Sympthsical 20 hrs ago #84
Threat of lawsuit? RoseTrellis 20 hrs ago #65
Wow. Passages 21 hrs ago #42
The Democratic Party doesn't allow this kind of behavor. Escape 21 hrs ago #30
True. Shades of Gary Hart. peppertree 21 hrs ago #46
Wait-a-sec mr715 18 hrs ago #111
Sure. peppertree 18 hrs ago #113
I'll have to check out Ms. Kelley's book. mr715 18 hrs ago #114
That could have something to do with it peppertree 18 hrs ago #116
Thanks for the insight mr715 14 hrs ago #133
You're very welcome peppertree 9 hrs ago #140
Well, The Democratic Party Apparently Does So "Allow," Until...., ColoringFool 20 hrs ago #80
True - but at least they have limits peppertree 19 hrs ago #105
Sent me to the all knowing internet to find out who Rielle Hunter is... Escape 13 hrs ago #136
Nobody wants to be the messenger. milestogo 21 hrs ago #34
That's true... LeftInTX 21 hrs ago #38
The Gary Hart of our times peppertree 21 hrs ago #39
My exact thought this morning. paleotn 21 hrs ago #50
Gary Hart may have been a reckless philanderer, but Jose Garcia 21 hrs ago #56
There's still issues of consent going after a parade of young women EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #95
I believe the House introduced a resolution in 2018 prohibiting any sexual contact between a member and staff MichMan 19 hrs ago #103
Luckily for Lady G, it didn't apply to the Senate peppertree 19 hrs ago #106
"Accountability" only applies to Democrats. valleyrogue 21 hrs ago #40
Sad - but true. And you see that in many other democracies. peppertree 18 hrs ago #108
Gandhi??? LeftInTX 17 hrs ago #126
So Gandhi was quite the dandy. peppertree 9 hrs ago #141
Scene from the 1933 movie 42nd Street LeftInTX 8 hrs ago #144
If party leadership knew about this & didn't discourage him from running for gov, then they're complicit, too. CrispyQ 21 hrs ago #53
That's the part that got me Tree Lady 20 hrs ago #74
The weird thing is jfz9580m 21 hrs ago #55
He is resigning. Accountability is taking place. Martin68 20 hrs ago #58
Philandering is one thing but Billsdaughter 20 hrs ago #61
"Was an open secret for a long time" sunnybrook 20 hrs ago #63
The open secret appears to have been that he was sleeping around while married. LisaL 20 hrs ago #64
If higher ups in the party knew, they shouldn't have encouraged him to run for governor. LeftInTX 20 hrs ago #76
I agree. LisaL 20 hrs ago #83
I'd like to see those sources too MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #130
I think a lot of people just liked that Swalwell that was an attack dog against Trump and didn't care about much else MichMan 20 hrs ago #71
Too many people repeat everything Trump says and seem to believe it as well Just_Vote_Dem 20 hrs ago #75
that's not evident in anything bigtree 19 hrs ago #87
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan 19 hrs ago #98
"The rumors that are being discussed as being generally known are of consensual relationships, not sexual assault or WhiskeyGrinder 19 hrs ago #101
I never understood the Avenatti stanning. He always seemed like a plonker to me. I certianly never got invested in the Celerity 19 hrs ago #91
DURec leftstreet 20 hrs ago #73
I'm not a fan of situational ethics. democrank 19 hrs ago #89
Yes. And a horror I have heard applauded jfz9580m 18 hrs ago #112
How soon we forget Edwards and other Dem 'womanizers' JCMach1 18 hrs ago #109
How soon we forget Edwards and other Dem 'womanizers' JCMach1 18 hrs ago #110
I mean like, what 50 year old man sends dick pics to his girlfriends? Jersey Devil 18 hrs ago #115
This is another dispiriting revelation peggysue2 18 hrs ago #117
Power does strange things to some people MustLoveBeagles 11 hrs ago #139
I have counter evidence for the last sentence. My daughter endorsed Swalwell before hearing any rumors, then "quickly deurbano 17 hrs ago #118
Obviously most of us (in general public) LisaL 16 hrs ago #127
I certainly did not, even thoI fancy myself to be rather well informed. 3catwoman3 14 hrs ago #134
With all due respect Sympthsical 11 hrs ago #138
As The "Old Folks" Say..........🎶........ ColoringFool 9 hrs ago #142
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