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hlthe2b

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6. Yes. "Open Secret?" I certainly had not heard the rumblings but perhaps within the beltway...
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:29 AM
10 hrs ago

The very first blurb I heard (and it was a breaking news "blurb" sans details, was 4:47 PM on Friday (MT) and literally a paragraph later updated as the story started to come out from other sources. Immediately, my response was to not rush to judgement, but take a breath until the facts came out--which they did fast and furious within the next hour(s).

So, yeah. It appears the pump was fully primed on Friday within the circles who fully "knew" but amazing to me, did not get picked up by MSM much earlier. I know damned well that I am not the only one who had not seen, heard, read the "rumors" and thus was caught off guard on this. It is inexplicable why that should have been the case with a so-called "Open Secret" situation.

KNR niyad 10 hrs ago #1
Tribes protect valuable members. OC375 10 hrs ago #2
It's California Bettie 10 hrs ago #4
Agreed. OC375 10 hrs ago #5
Which makes the question posed in the article even more compelling. yardwork 10 hrs ago #12
If this was known Bettie 10 hrs ago #3
Yes. "Open Secret?" I certainly had not heard the rumblings but perhaps within the beltway... hlthe2b 10 hrs ago #6
"So, yeah. It appears the pump was fully primed on Friday within the circles who fully "knew" but amazing to me, did not WhiskeyGrinder 10 hrs ago #8
I Believe The Term Refers To Those Working With Or For Swalwell, Not "Us". ColoringFool 8 hrs ago #78
My daughter is a CA Dem delegate and a caucus chair, and she had never heard those rumors. deurbano 7 hrs ago #93
I concur. In this world there are "upstanders" snd Ninga 7 hrs ago #104
I have never come across any decent humans who are cheaters jfz9580m 5 hrs ago #124
Exactly WSHazel 10 hrs ago #7
One of the reasons I didn't quite believe it at first Bettie 10 hrs ago #9
Madoff is the epitome of this behavior WSHazel 8 hrs ago #59
Broken stair analogy, plus organizations like to hold on to high performers, even when they're terrible people. WhiskeyGrinder 10 hrs ago #10
And the biggest missing stair in our politics happens to be President! (n/t) thesquanderer 7 hrs ago #94
Arnold Schwarzenegger fathered a son with the family's housekeeper, kept the child a secret while he was sop 10 hrs ago #11
The sad fact is that a lot of men get away with it. yardwork 10 hrs ago #16
Thank you jfz9580m 9 hrs ago #27
Just to be clear, a lot of the "wait and see" was about not SEEING all the facts yet RandomNumbers 9 hrs ago #28
Wait and see is one thing. yardwork 9 hrs ago #31
Yes, I agree with you on that point. RandomNumbers 9 hrs ago #35
It has helped me make a final decision jfz9580m 8 hrs ago #77
"Immediately blaming every woman in sight is something else." MorbidButterflyTat 5 hrs ago #123
Nope. I'm not calling out any DUer. yardwork 3 hrs ago #128
There was someone here yesterday asking what was expected if a drunk woman goes to a man's hotel room EdmondDantes_ 9 hrs ago #45
Should be asking, why would a responsible man RandomNumbers 8 hrs ago #67
More than one poster suggested that the bank accounts of the victims needed to be investigated MichMan 8 hrs ago #68
The question was MorbidButterflyTat 5 hrs ago #125
That's not the post I was referring to EdmondDantes_ 2 hrs ago #129
I have seen post, that in my opinion suggest voting for him Lifeafter70 8 hrs ago #60
That's what stood out to me jfz9580m 8 hrs ago #82
Based on Arnold, obviously he had a good reason to think so. LisaL 8 hrs ago #62
I had no idea this was an open secret. Disgusting. Passages 10 hrs ago #13
People thought the party was taking crazy pills Sympthsical 10 hrs ago #14
I imagine the Republicans were hoping he'd be the nominee. yardwork 10 hrs ago #17
I still haven't heard a credible explanation from "The timing is suspicious!" crowd Sympthsical 9 hrs ago #19
There was a spontaneous eruption of that phrase on DU. yardwork 9 hrs ago #20
Hasn't hurt many of the GOP members samplegirl 10 hrs ago #15
The death of accountability is a good headline. yardwork 9 hrs ago #18
The difference between virtue signalling and actual virtue on full display Sympthsical 9 hrs ago #21
And every other woman in sight was blamed, too. yardwork 9 hrs ago #23
I think Katie Porter will actually be hurt by this Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #25
Absolutely. She's getting the Hillary Clinton Kamala Harris treatment. yardwork 9 hrs ago #37
There's another element here. She's running against a man people liked a lot who turned out to be a dog. Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #44
On the other hand - I suspect many Democratic voters will now see her as more of a sure bet peppertree 9 hrs ago #54
As a former CA member of the House, she was in karynnj 7 hrs ago #92
Probably true. Scrivener7 7 hrs ago #102
OMG, nobody said anything like that on here. MorbidButterflyTat 1 hr ago #135
She clearly is being hit on this karynnj 7 hrs ago #90
Tribal reaction. Dems are not immune from it. paleotn 9 hrs ago #49
Exactly! This is not a game, folks. paleotn 9 hrs ago #43
nothing in that article backed up the claim that 'His sexual misconduct was an open secret' bigtree 9 hrs ago #22
It was very much an open secret Sympthsical 9 hrs ago #24
That's sad. I wonder if this was known more than locally? Many will blow it off as "just gossip" LeftInTX 9 hrs ago #32
Unfortunately, it seems to be considered 'acceptable' for men to behave like that RandomNumbers 9 hrs ago #33
For years. Incredible, one would imagine he was the only politician they could back. Passages 9 hrs ago #36
Why encourage him to run for governor? MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #132
Kevin MCarthy on CNN question everything 9 hrs ago #52
not one of the sources I'd trust for anything bigtree 8 hrs ago #85
Whatever else is true about how "known" Swalwell's behavior was, My Kevin is not a reliable reporter. deurbano 7 hrs ago #99
Kevin MCarthy??? MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #131
I noticed the word "misconduct" people knew of his "misconduct" and chose to ignore it. But "misconduct" has now Ninga 8 hrs ago #66
Stop blaming Nancy Pelosi. yardwork 8 hrs ago #79
Excuse me. There are "upstanders" and "bystanders" Ninga 6 hrs ago #107
Exactly. No matter their last name or gender. N/T AloeVera 5 hrs ago #120
"Inappropriate" behaviour by a person in power is grooming. AloeVera 5 hrs ago #119
Here is a possible explanation karynnj 7 hrs ago #96
it's not clear anyone knew except the people claiming it was well known bigtree 5 hrs ago #121
Just because you didn't know... Random Boomer 7 hrs ago #100
internet gossip bigtree 5 hrs ago #122
There is this tweet from Dec 2025 LeftInTX 9 hrs ago #26
great reply Celerity 9 hrs ago #29
what did he do with that information bigtree 9 hrs ago #41
The answer is right in the article. Nanjeanne 9 hrs ago #47
more background as well Celerity 8 hrs ago #57
He's an interesting read. Did you see this one? Sympthsical 8 hrs ago #69
I figured as much. Unless Becerra finds rocket fuel and blows up out of his months-long 2 to 5 per cent level, it looks, Celerity 7 hrs ago #88
I see the problem with Becerra Sympthsical 7 hrs ago #97
"...what did both of these men do other than this political chit-chat on social media?" WhiskeyGrinder 9 hrs ago #48
that's still just conjecture bigtree 8 hrs ago #86
Because the victims had to come forward Sympthsical 9 hrs ago #51
That's how it was with Tony Gonzales. LeftInTX 8 hrs ago #70
Yep. Just like Weinstein and Ronan Farrow Sympthsical 8 hrs ago #81
The comments made by some poster here Lifeafter70 8 hrs ago #72
Humans gonna human Sympthsical 8 hrs ago #84
Threat of lawsuit? RoseTrellis 8 hrs ago #65
Wow. Passages 9 hrs ago #42
The Democratic Party doesn't allow this kind of behavor. Escape 9 hrs ago #30
True. Shades of Gary Hart. peppertree 9 hrs ago #46
Wait-a-sec mr715 6 hrs ago #111
Sure. peppertree 6 hrs ago #113
I'll have to check out Ms. Kelley's book. mr715 6 hrs ago #114
That could have something to do with it peppertree 6 hrs ago #116
Thanks for the insight mr715 2 hrs ago #133
Well, The Democratic Party Apparently Does So "Allow," Until...., ColoringFool 8 hrs ago #80
True - but at least they have limits peppertree 7 hrs ago #105
Sent me to the all knowing internet to find out who Rielle Hunter is... Escape 1 hr ago #136
Nobody wants to be the messenger. milestogo 9 hrs ago #34
That's true... LeftInTX 9 hrs ago #38
The Gary Hart of our times peppertree 9 hrs ago #39
My exact thought this morning. paleotn 9 hrs ago #50
Gary Hart may have been a reckless philanderer, but Jose Garcia 9 hrs ago #56
There's still issues of consent going after a parade of young women EdmondDantes_ 7 hrs ago #95
I believe the House introduced a resolution in 2018 prohibiting any sexual contact between a member and staff MichMan 7 hrs ago #103
Luckily for Lady G, it didn't apply to the Senate peppertree 6 hrs ago #106
"Accountability" only applies to Democrats. valleyrogue 9 hrs ago #40
Sad - but true. And you see that in many other democracies. peppertree 6 hrs ago #108
Gandhi??? LeftInTX 5 hrs ago #126
If party leadership knew about this & didn't discourage him from running for gov, then they're complicit, too. CrispyQ 9 hrs ago #53
That's the part that got me Tree Lady 8 hrs ago #74
The weird thing is jfz9580m 9 hrs ago #55
He is resigning. Accountability is taking place. Martin68 8 hrs ago #58
Philandering is one thing but Billsdaughter 8 hrs ago #61
"Was an open secret for a long time" sunnybrook 8 hrs ago #63
The open secret appears to have been that he was sleeping around while married. LisaL 8 hrs ago #64
If higher ups in the party knew, they shouldn't have encouraged him to run for governor. LeftInTX 8 hrs ago #76
I agree. LisaL 8 hrs ago #83
I'd like to see those sources too MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #130
I think a lot of people just liked that Swalwell that was an attack dog against Trump and didn't care about much else MichMan 8 hrs ago #71
Too many people repeat everything Trump says and seem to believe it as well Just_Vote_Dem 8 hrs ago #75
that's not evident in anything bigtree 7 hrs ago #87
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan 7 hrs ago #98
"The rumors that are being discussed as being generally known are of consensual relationships, not sexual assault or WhiskeyGrinder 7 hrs ago #101
I never understood the Avenatti stanning. He always seemed like a plonker to me. I certianly never got invested in the Celerity 7 hrs ago #91
DURec leftstreet 8 hrs ago #73
I'm not a fan of situational ethics. democrank 7 hrs ago #89
Yes. And a horror I have heard applauded jfz9580m 6 hrs ago #112
How soon we forget Edwards and other Dem 'womanizers' JCMach1 6 hrs ago #109
How soon we forget Edwards and other Dem 'womanizers' JCMach1 6 hrs ago #110
I mean like, what 50 year old man sends dick pics to his girlfriends? Jersey Devil 6 hrs ago #115
This is another dispiriting revelation peggysue2 6 hrs ago #117
I have counter evidence for the last sentence. My daughter endorsed Swalwell before hearing any rumors, then "quickly deurbano 5 hrs ago #118
Obviously most of us (in general public) LisaL 4 hrs ago #127
I certainly did not, even thoI fancy myself to be rather well informed. 3catwoman3 2 hrs ago #134
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