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gulliver

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25. It's not a terrible move if it has been cleared diplomatically

Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:16 AM

Apr 12

It cuts the IRGC money flow off. I see the Islamic Republic as the Kenneth McElroy of the Earth. Some will take out the nutball bully; everyone else will look the other way.

It seems like stating the obvious, but the correct progressive and liberal position is to want the Islamic Republic gone. Those curs are bigots of the worst kind and a clear threat to innocent human life. As a liberal and lifelong Democrat myself, I can't see it any other way. It's straightforward. The moral thing to do is hold your nose, hold your breath, and hope the IRGC are sent to Hell. Would that it weren't so.

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US Navy will begin the blocking all ships from the Strait of Hormuz, announces President Trump. [View all] demmiblue Apr 12 OP

China might not like that. no_hypocrisy Apr 12 #1

Yeah, it's batshit crazy. demmiblue Apr 12 #14

Trump wants countries to pay bribes TO HIM to sail the strait. Irish_Dem Apr 12 #18

Trump won't care if a boatload of US sailors is at the bottom of the strait in pieces. Vinca Apr 12 #31

Here: Amaryllis Apr 12 #39

Of course their are a couple workarounds to this. Crowman2009 Apr 12 #75

We've reached the part where the mad despot declares war on everyone C_U_L8R Apr 12 #2

He is declaring war on everyone. murielm99 Apr 12 #11

Motherfucker has straight up lost his mind orangecrush Apr 12 #36

I thought blocking the Strait of Hormuz was a *bad* thing. Ocelot II Apr 12 #3

Never. He is uneducable. SheltieLover Apr 12 #20

Agreed, SL. yellow dahlia Apr 12 #58

I'd like to hear him try to pronouce it. enigmania Apr 12 #47

I think Cheung wrote it, possibly with an assist from Kegsbreath. yellow dahlia Apr 12 #56

President Pampers is getting cranky . . . hatrack Apr 12 #4

Another lie.......................... Lovie777 Apr 12 #5

He's making a declaration of war on his own. We don't count. Walleye Apr 12 #6

The troops don't count either... Hope22 Apr 12 #37

He has no humanity Walleye Apr 12 #42

At this point, he's once again trying to manipulate NATO and Kahuna Apr 12 #74

And making plenty of stock speculation money on the side Walleye Apr 12 #86

"We don't even care if they block the Strait. It will open up naturally, In fact, we want to block it and we're the Prairie Gates Apr 12 #7

Once again, he is helping Iran implement their strategy Renew Deal Apr 12 #8

Yeah, literally blocking the strait even more effectively Johonny Apr 12 #12

He's blocking the strait so they won't block the strait underpants Apr 12 #29

He's punching himself in the face before Iran gets to. Johnny2X2X Apr 12 #40

Are we skipping over the "safe passage" part? underpants Apr 12 #52

Trump is so easy for them to manipulate and play with. Irish_Dem Apr 12 #16

He is blind to geography. pfitz59 Apr 12 #9

How many US Navy Ships will be sunk Captain Zero Apr 12 #10

Too many. Ray Bruns Apr 12 #66

He's going to take control of any ships that Iran lets through and ... what? muriel_volestrangler Apr 12 #13

Are we skipping over the "safe passage" part? underpants Apr 12 #50

The background noise you hear are all the US Navy admirals cussing up a storm. Irish_Dem Apr 12 #15

Khomeini, eh? The Madcap Apr 12 #17

Strictly, he's right in one way, since he said "Khomeini is dead" muriel_volestrangler Apr 12 #21

Khomeini's son. gab13by13 Apr 12 #22

Ayatollah Khomeini was Iran's leader after the 1979 revolution VMA131Marine Apr 12 #27

Wrong dad Bob_in_VA Apr 12 #51

Nope, incorrect obamanut2012 Apr 12 #61

Don't worry MorbidButterflyTat Apr 12 #93

Republicans should answer for this newdeal2 Apr 12 #19

Full text: dalton99a Apr 12 #23

Any bets how the crude oil markets will react to this? gab13by13 Apr 12 #24

It's not a terrible move if it has been cleared diplomatically gulliver Apr 12 #25

What is the U.S. Navy going to do with the ships it stops coming out of the Strait of Hormuz VMA131Marine Apr 12 #30

True. gulliver Apr 12 #33

I seem to recall a certain agreement reached about 10 years ago newdeal2 Apr 12 #44

True. gulliver Apr 12 #65

I had never heard of Kenneth McElroy before you mentioned him, but I'm reading his Wiki page now Polybius Apr 12 #68

I did some digging, and found out that it was only released on VHS Polybius Apr 12 #83

Thanks, I might watch it gulliver Apr 12 #88

We on DU feel (mostly) that the rightwing majority on SCOTUS is a threat to America. Girard442 Apr 12 #78

Gas is gonna triple in price. BradBo Apr 12 #26

Iran can't block the Strait of Hormuz JoseBalow Apr 12 #28

I'm sure this has been gamed out several hundred times crud Apr 12 #32

We're fucking ourselves!!!! It's insanity!!! paleotn Apr 12 #38

Another Sunday where Trump threatens Iran with total annihilation Buckeyeblue Apr 12 #34

So let me get this straight.... paleotn Apr 12 #35

"...they want nuclear." It's like suffering a far more stupid GWB. Once flvegan Apr 12 #41

this just proves his good cop, bad cop "negotiations" are all BS Nigrum Cattus Apr 12 #43

TOFU: Trump Only Fucks Up LetMyPeopleVote Apr 12 #45

This is gold Ponietz Apr 12 #53

So, thinking this through, gab13by13 Apr 12 #46

It's The Weekends Market Manipulation News the_liberal_grandpa Apr 12 #48

And what will any of this accomplish? Figarosmom Apr 12 #49

It will hurt Iran's economy gab13by13 Apr 12 #54

It will soothe Baby Piggy MorbidButterflyTat Apr 12 #91

if we want the strait open, how does blockading it help that? Since blockade means "close" Takket Apr 12 #55

The man is certifiably insane. His cabinet and supporters in Congress are certifiably corrupt degenerates. Martin68 Apr 12 #57

So, by "Interdict" does he mean Bettie Apr 12 #59

Iran is attacking ships with weapons we supposedly destroyed. SamuelAdams Apr 12 #60

Well said. c-rational Apr 12 #79

I don't understand how closing the Strait makes it open Alpeduez21 Apr 12 #62

What is supposed to happen at this point Bluestocking Apr 12 #63

I'll start worrying after TACO Tuesday. nt Shipwack Apr 12 #64

So, now we will threaten to blow up ships from other countries because... Scalded Nun Apr 12 #67

Right now crude oil futures are down $1.30 gab13by13 Apr 12 #70

P.S. Donny: They still own the Straits of Hormuz. Thank you for your attention to this matter. flashman13 Apr 12 #69

The criminal tRump regime has been doing this to Colombia and Cuba and getting away with it so nows its Hormuz yaesu Apr 12 #71

Inderdicting shipping on the High Seas Historic NY Apr 12 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author gab13by13 Apr 12 #80

Manmade canals are allowed to charge fees, gab13by13 Apr 12 #81

But is it really open sea when it divided in ther middle of Iranian territory Historic NY Apr 12 #85

Read: If he can't have the toll proceeds, nobody can have them. nt Kahuna Apr 12 #73

So Iran is no longer blocking the Strait of Hormuz, because WE are blocking the Strait of Hormuz. ToxMarz Apr 12 #76

Pretty much covers it spinbaby Apr 12 #95

So we blow up a Chinese tanker and... what? mainer Apr 12 #77

Am I the only one who is dying to know the "other countries" that will be involved in our blockade? Native Apr 12 #82

TrumpenFuhrer has slaughtered Iranian children, made extinction level threats - to a country NoMoreRepugs Apr 12 #84

The blockade is meant to starve Iran economically. gab13by13 Apr 12 #87

How soon untill we see a Chinese aircraft carrier escorting Chinese oil tankers? NickB79 Apr 12 #89

"Interdict"??? MorbidButterflyTat Apr 12 #90

TRANSLATION: "I will now use B.See Apr 12 #92

He thinks that his over the top bullying will work as keeps failing. Mr dealmaker can't even converse with people either themaguffin Apr 12 #94

Crude oil trading has restarted - up from $95 to $102 for Brent crude muriel_volestrangler Apr 12 #96