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Ms. Toad

(38,726 posts)
26. Why did the Trump and Epstein accusers said so long?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:54 AM
Apr 11

Many women never share their experiences with anyone. Our society is still set up to believe the man, to demand cold hard proof where there often is none because if the mature of the crime. Every woman has seen this happen and it serves as a warning to keep quiet or be accused of lying (either about it happening or about our lack of consent) or of asking for it.

I shared my fourth story immediately with my family, and my mother's first comment was, "were you doing something you shouldn't have been doing?" The police arrested the man who raped me, put him in jail overnight to give him a scare, but declined to press charges, even though they knew I was the 13th victim with a nearly identical story.

It was at least a decade before I shared my first and second story. I never shared my third.

It took a couple of years before I shared my 5th story - I delayed that because we were members of an affinity group. I was in a leadership role. He was about to be appointed to one and the thought of him being in a role in which part of his responsibilities was to help ensure that all physical and emotional intimacy was consensual. But for that appointment, I would have just kept staying out of his way

Determining when and who to tell doesn't have rules, partly because the reaction to our stories can do a lot of emotional damage at a time we need to be healing; partly because society convinces we were the only one: partly because society convinces us nothing will be done to the abuser so why bother. And sometimes, something happens that makes remaining silent a worse option than speaking up. Other women come forward and we realize that if we had spoken up he might not have had so many b victims. And sometimes, like me, as to my 5th abuser, the need to speak up is triggered because the person who abused me is about to rise into a role we can't bear to think of him in

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7 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

" Why did the Swalwell accusers wait so long?" WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #1
Again, contradictions Chasstev365 Apr 11 #2
" why would you put yourself in the same exact situation a second time?" WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #3
Thank you for this post and your others in this thread. yardwork Apr 11 #12
Thank you for speaking eloquently on this EdmondDantes_ Apr 11 #13
How dumb can I be? Chasstev365 Apr 11 #14
The "you" in the post is rhetorical and is meant to show people what might be going through a victim's mind as they WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #17
I think you misunderstood the poster. yardwork Apr 11 #19
Well said. ananda Apr 11 #8
i agree with all that rampartd Apr 11 #4
The good ole days, right? ananda Apr 11 #9
If the details are right in the news. Then... RoeVWade Apr 11 #5
I am giving Swalwell the benefit of the doubt until more concrete evidence is available. Lonestarblue Apr 11 #6
Well, the timing sure is fishy. ananda Apr 11 #7
It's very possible the survivors are speaking now to prevent his election. yardwork Apr 11 #20
I get that. ananda Apr 11 #22
Remember there were 8 Franken accusers, including some Democrats n/t Ms. Toad Apr 11 #27
Why do I not believe these women right away? mwmisses4289 Apr 11 #10
San Francisco Chronicle published facts suggesting they're telling the truth ... Auggie Apr 11 #21
This does happen. ananda Apr 11 #28
Well, that sucks bigtime. mwmisses4289 Apr 11 #32
I know. It's been WAY too long like this. ananda Apr 11 #33
Your last sentence tends to prove the rest of your post. yardwork Apr 11 #11
I apologize for doing that. I didn't realize... ananda Apr 11 #23
Thanks for acknowledging that. yardwork Apr 11 #24
Tribes protect valuable members OC375 Apr 11 #15
How many times do we have to go over why victims keep it to themselves? eShirl Apr 11 #16
The same amount of times there have been false allegations? Mysterian Apr 11 #18
False allegations are fairly rare. yardwork Apr 11 #25
They are more common than you think. mwmisses4289 Apr 11 #34
Proven false often means the victim was so insulted, dismissed, blamed Ms. Toad Apr 11 #36
I will disagree with that. mwmisses4289 Apr 11 #37
Rape is the most difficult crime to prosecute Quiet Em Apr 11 #38
What does proven false mean in your mind - found not guilty by a jury? Ms. Toad Apr 11 #39
Proven false means just that- the person making the allegation lied about it. mwmisses4289 Apr 11 #40
My question is about "proven." You've been dancing around, but not answering that. Ms. Toad Apr 11 #41
I believe I have answered your question to the best of my ability. mwmisses4289 Apr 11 #42
You finally, for the first time, did something to explain the word you choose (proven). Ms. Toad Apr 11 #43
Why did the Trump and Epstein accusers said so long? Ms. Toad Apr 11 #26
Thank you for sharing your experiences here. yardwork Apr 11 #30
You're welcome. Ms. Toad Apr 11 #35
I will wait until passing judgment although his case looks bleak. GreenWave Apr 11 #29
"Why did the Swalwell accusers wait so long?" Wednesdays Apr 11 #31
waiting to come forward is a consequence of the abuse bigtree Apr 11 #44
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