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wnylib

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42. Yes, oil is one reason. But he could not say that at first
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 04:36 PM
Apr 9

because he knew that people would object to the attack based on getting oil that we, as a country, don't need. He could not openly admit that he wanted it for himself. So he made up a bunch of reasons at first.

There was another reason for the war that he is not talking about. It coincides with Netanyahu's M.E. plans. Trump wants a luxury resort in Gaza. So he was willing to give Netanyahu a green light to completely raze Gaza. But, since Hamas was supported by Iran and Hezbollah, Trump's Gaza resort would always be threatened by terrorism from both. Israel would always be threatened by both.

So Trump and Netanyahu teamed up to eliminate Iran and Hezbollah as threats. You are right about Trump's attitude. In his usual arrogance, Trump thought that an attack on Iran would be a cake walk.

Iran is a bad actor on the world stage, to its own people and its neighbors. But trying to take over the country the way that Trump and Hegseth are doing is insane. If they genuinely wanted to stop Iran from getting nukes, and wanted regime change for the Iranian people, they should have consulted allies and developed a coalition. They should also have consulted intel agencies and developed a. better strategy based on intel about Iran's capabilities.

But, by going it alone, Trump felt that he could have sole claim to the oil. Maybe that was a deal between him and Netanyahu. Trump would help him in return for getting the oil for himself.

Trump tried the shock and awe method, aka "Blitzkrieg" to Nazis. If warned about Hormuz getting closed by Iran, I am betting that he assumed that other nations would step into the fight in order to free up Hormuz. That's why he is so pissed off at NATO nations. They have not reacted the way he anticipated (assumed).

Two huge errors in judgment. 1. Assuming he could conquer Iran by brute force. 2. Not making the security of Hormuz a top priority because he assumed that other nations would have to join his war in order to secure Hormuz themselves.

So he comes across as a blundering fool.



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LBJ, maybe? JoseBalow Apr 9 #1
They say he had a big one Dan Apr 9 #3
LBJ ordering pants BaronChocula Apr 9 #55
That's just speculation EYESORE 9001 Apr 9 #4
Only some comically-oversized Florsheims could pull that off Blue Owl Apr 9 #2
According to Stormy Daniels, there's not much there Grim Chieftain Apr 9 #15
America elected the lowest common denominator to office Torchlight Apr 9 #5
Well said BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 9 #6
You've made a good case for this being the worst in terms of absurdity, if not... NNadir Apr 9 #7
I'm going to have to defend Kennedy here. In 1960 the Cold Wr was at it's height and every flashman13 Apr 9 #28
I agree with your second paragraph. I hold the Vienna summit... NNadir Apr 9 #41
We certainly have a differing view on historical events. I'll leave it at that. flashman13 Apr 9 #46
Agreed, popsdenver Apr 9 #52
Well this Iran war is the most stupid thing in recent history. LeftInTX Apr 9 #36
This vile and horrible administration wouldn't have happened if not for Fox. Initech Apr 9 #8
According to Stormy Daniels, it would be most difficult if not impossible for him to do. mdbl Apr 9 #9
I don't think Trump is that flexible Fiendish Thingy Apr 9 #10
No, but Franklin Pierce had an extensive groin injury from a saddle horn during a battle Uncle Joe Apr 9 #11
;-{) Dethroned Goonch Apr 9 #12
He did articulate a reason: he and some of his cronies mwmisses4289 Apr 9 #13
Yes, oil is one reason. But he could not say that at first wnylib Apr 9 #42
You state it well LeftInTX Apr 9 #43
Andrew Johnson did a bad job reading the room Johonny Apr 9 #14
Yes. ShazzieB Apr 9 #16
Certainly none who has tried to swing his little nubbin around Warpy Apr 9 #17
It's almost as though everything he does... Orrex Apr 9 #18
You have found it, Ocelot! It is the one thing Trump is actually really, really good at! Fucking up. n/t PatrickforB Apr 9 #19
No not as immediately. Geebus, what is it 5 weeks? underpants Apr 9 #20
Iraq was a pretty immense debacle. BannonsLiver Apr 9 #21
He would have to cut it off stage left Apr 9 #22
Truman dropped a nuclear bomb on civilians - twice. Mblaze Apr 9 #23
Truman never had any regrets. He believed that ending the war spared about 100,000 US troops. mobeau69 Apr 9 #44
I can understand that. Mblaze Apr 9 #48
According to the common Trump-slurpers, he's restored our rightful place of respect in the world and NBachers Apr 9 #24
I don't think so! And it couldn't happen to a more deserving POS LymphocyteLover Apr 9 #25
Really quite a feat to step on that tiny mushroom! LymphocyteLover Apr 9 #26
Exactly bdamomma Apr 9 #35
As somebody said, it's one thing to step on your own dick, it's another thing to jump up and down on it Walleye Apr 9 #27
What dick? Dave Bowman Apr 9 #29
It's only dick stepping if it isn't exactly what you want to do. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 9 #30
Just to add: Bush I casued the FIRST iraq debacle JHB Apr 9 #31
Obama wore a tan suit. BHDem53 Apr 9 #32
Brilliant! Talitha Apr 9 #37
The Benefit of this War is Putin's Win pioche4 Apr 9 #33
Despite having such a tiny mushroom WheelWalker Apr 9 #34
Miracles in modern electron microscopes make this possible for him. GreenWave Apr 9 #38
No president ever had the challenge of having such a small dick to step on. No way he can see it over his enormous belly Martin68 Apr 9 #39
A not so tiny hiney,and a teeny weeny. BattleRow Apr 9 #49
Our country has been totally fucked by SCOTUS decisions over the years. ananda Apr 9 #40
Shrub and his attacking Wednesdays Apr 9 #45
I blame a lot of it on the apprentice show Tree Lady Apr 9 #47
They harped about the keystone pipeline using fox bs endlessly. mobeau69 Apr 9 #50
Shart of the deal IronLionZion Apr 9 #51
It would be one thing if he stepped on his own dick Javaman Apr 9 #53
"Galactically stupid" sums it up quite well! KY_EnviroGuy Apr 9 #54
Galactically Stupid BunnyMcGee Apr 9 #56
... and none of those presidents you named, could actually STEP on their dick Jack Valentino Apr 9 #57
I think Shady Vance and Pete Kegsbreath are going to go through some things, maybe along with Little Marco COL Mustard Apr 10 #58
And then declared victory. TheRickles Apr 10 #59
No, but considering Aviation Pro Apr 10 #60
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