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Ocelot II

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16. Exactly. The "subject to the jurisdiction" bit was meant only to exclude children of foreign diplomats,

Reply to johnnyfins (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 6, 2026, 10:37 AM

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because foreign diplomats on US soil are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US. That's why their cars have special license plates - diplomats can't even be busted for running a stoplight. Diplomatic immunity is one of the oldest and most widespread practices in international relations, and the principle was in effect when the 14th amendment was written. Everybody else, whether documented or otherwise, is subject to the jurisdiction of the US and is bound by its criminal and civil laws - arguments to the contrary are ridiculous. If an undocumented immigrant isn't subject to the jurisdiction of the US such that their child can't be considered a citizen, that would also mean that immigrant can't be arrested, charged or prosecuted for any crime.

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