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hunter

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76. When the Soviet Union successfully orbited Sputnik...
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:55 PM
21 hrs ago

... the U.S.A. fearing we were falling behind threw a huge amount of money into science education, from kindergarten to college. I grew up in that rich environment. We heard about the space program almost every day in school.

I heard about it at home too. My grandfather was an aerospace engineer who worked on the Apollo Project. I've got some of his drawings, photographs, and his Apollo 8 "flown metal" appreciation medallion.

Sending men to the moon was a big adventure then.

If the Artemis 2 project was a movie it would be the 2026 remake of 1968's Apollo 8. An actual movie from 1968 is Stanley Kubrick's 2001. A remake of 2001 would have to take place in some alternate universe. Here in our universe there were no Pan Am spaceliners flying to giant rotating space stations.

What we've learned since the first manned space flights is that space is not any kind of "new frontier." It's a place extremely inhospitable to human life. ( New frontiers, of course, were also a myth. Most of earth's habitable places were populated by humans in prehistoric times. The "American Frontier" we celebrate in our grade school history books was genocide. )

Manned space exploration is a dead end. Any science a human can do in space robots can do better. Any resources we might find in space are more readily available to us on earth. It's easier by orders of magnitude to live on Antarctica than it would be to live on the moon or Mars. How many people live on Antarctica?

"Boomers" like myself and previous generations may have been inspired by manned space flight and science fiction such as Star Trek. We can't expect later generations to be inspired by more of the same.

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You nailed it here. Maru Kitteh Wednesday #2
There was a story about this on NPR earlier today. cab67 Wednesday #3
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100 percent agree! cab67 Wednesday #7
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I'm sorry. Gotta interrupt here to admire the "Old Colostomy" nickname. calimary 18 hrs ago #85
I stole it from John Oliver. cab67 17 hrs ago #90
That's A BINGO! NASA Is Lucky Trump Probably Didn't Know, Either! "DEI! STOP! DEI!" ColoringFool Wednesday #35
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"Old Colostomy" will probably send MyOwnPeace 17 hrs ago #91
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Your grandfather was born before the first airplane took flight. cab67 Wednesday #6
My grandmother was born in 1903.... lastlib Wednesday #38
I was five. OldBaldy1701E Wednesday #29
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It was a wild thing. OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #50
I was in junior high school Sequoia Yesterday #60
I was at a friends house airplaneman 21 hrs ago #78
Right? OldBaldy1701E 18 hrs ago #86
I was 11 ... it was "mind: blown" for me LSparkle Yesterday #54
Moon walk blanket! Love it! electric_blue68 22 hrs ago #67
Oh MAN, I remember that! calimary 18 hrs ago #87
It wasn't well promoted LeftInTX Wednesday #8
I didn't hear about it until 30 minutes or so before the launch. Ms. Toad Wednesday #9
You've got a point. cab67 Wednesday #10
I agree. The lack of interest, much less excitement, is brer cat Wednesday #11
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When your future looks promising Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #43
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Not inspiring? cab67 Wednesday #21
So did any of them show any Figarosmom Wednesday #13
They did, in fact. cab67 Wednesday #18
I was amazed at how little coverage was aired by MSM BeneteauBum Wednesday #14
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I didn't hear about it until this morning Niagara Wednesday #16
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your loss. cab67 Wednesday #24
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This was true for the chat feed on NASA's broadcast yesterday. cab67 Yesterday #57
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I respectfully disagree. cab67 Yesterday #56
While I respect your opinion, we need to channel our scientific resourses more wisely. NNadir Yesterday #59
Kids in your classes grew up with Star Trek and Star Wars movies, plus a lot of other SciFi FakeNoose Yesterday #61
I was 12 for the start of (original run of) Star Trek... electric_blue68 22 hrs ago #71
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I live close to the Fl northeast coast. Fla Dem Yesterday #63
I saw a shuttle launch from the beach in 2008 (?) progressoid 23 hrs ago #66
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Like too much .. its a show... Mustellus 23 hrs ago #65
I certainly appreciate robotics, but we still need the Human Experience. We are often explorers. electric_blue68 22 hrs ago #68
The US is failing miserably on science. Historic NY 22 hrs ago #69
I knew about it, idk, a few weeks back. Very excited it's happening. electric_blue68 22 hrs ago #70
Apollo 11 landed on evolves 21 hrs ago #73
Guess they dont "follow" NASA on social media. IcyPeas 21 hrs ago #74
I watched the launch yesterday 49jim 21 hrs ago #75
When the Soviet Union successfully orbited Sputnik... hunter 21 hrs ago #76
Great OP malaise 21 hrs ago #77
My son was born on June 6, 1969. Bumbles 21 hrs ago #79
Have always supported a robust space program, but I have some sympathy for the lack of interest right now in Artemis. Martin68 20 hrs ago #80
I was a freshman in HS and watching AKwannabe 20 hrs ago #81
first year in college for me. cab67 17 hrs ago #89
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Are they running from ICE?Worried about paying for the next semester?Working a job and attending class? Scalded Nun 15 hrs ago #94
I did mention it before launch. cab67 14 hrs ago #96
I agree with what you wrote, but personally babylonsister 15 hrs ago #95
I understand the "so much need" argument. cab67 14 hrs ago #97
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