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xocetaceans

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11. n.b., a classic example of an epic fail is a defense of that 'AI' slop OP. If one examines the list of citations . . .
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 04:37 AM
Yesterday

. . . that the chatbot has produced, there is a oddly monikered "Melvin S. Melvin" . . .

Interesting name . . . Is it a nom de plume or a hallucination?

Or don't most parents name their children after that fashion?


The article cited by autocomplete on steroids is as follows:

August 1, 2024
Blueprints for Authoritarianism: Mein Kampf and Project 2025
Melvin Goodman

...

I am not arguing that “Project 2025” is directly comparable to Adolf Hitler’s autobiographical manifesto “Mein Kampf,” but there are some similarities in their political ideology and their political plans for the United States and Germany, respectively. Both documents are “blueprints for authoritarianism.” As the saying goes, often you need to be forewarned in order to be forearmed.

The antisemitic ravings of “Mein Kampf” are quite different from the unconscionable anti-immigrant markers in “Project 2025.” However, the language of the documents as well as the language of Donald Trump reveal a contempt for groups of individuals that is evil and ugly. Hitler wrote about the “Jewish peril,” which isn’t far removed from Trump’s racism going back to the “American Carnage” speech of 2017 as well as the Project’s call for mass deportations.Trump’s language has only worsened over the years, and we never should forget his Muslim ban and the reference to “shithole” countries in his first year in the White House.

...

Melvin A. Goodman is a senior fellow at the Center for International Policy and a professor of government at Johns Hopkins University. A former CIA analyst, Goodman is the author of Failure of Intelligence: The Decline and Fall of the CIA and National Insecurity: The Cost of American Militarism. and A Whistleblower at the CIA. His most recent books are “American Carnage: The Wars of Donald Trump” (Opus Publishing, 2019) and “Containing the National Security State” (Opus Publishing, 2021). Goodman is the national security columnist for counterpunch.org.


https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/08/01/blueprints-for-authoritarianism-mein-kampf-and-project-2025/


Aha! Luckily for Melvin, his parents gave him the middle initial A and the surname Goodman.

You can't spell "fail" without 'AI'.

However, does botching such a citation count as some transcendent form of 'meta-plagiarism'?

Additionally, the first block of text that is attributed to the above article is badly quote-mined and/or 'quote-collaged' as it were. The first sentence is from paragraph one, and the second sentence is originally from paragraph eight but had been abridged by having its introductory phrase elided.

Both these flaws were noted after a cursory perusal of the document. Basic checking of the citations and looking for material using that faulty citation were all that was needed to see the glaring flaws in the quality of that 'analysis' by chatbot. It is unreal that people actually treat chatbots as credible sources for anything.

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the snapshots: Celerity Yesterday #1
Who needs AI to see the parallels ? nt eppur_se_muova Yesterday #2
Apparently people who've stopped using their own minds and worship AI. highplainsdem Yesterday #5
n.b., a classic example of an epic fail is a defense of that 'AI' slop OP. If one examines the list of citations . . . xocetaceans Yesterday #11
More AI slop. There are actual human experts out there whose comments on Project 2025 are worth highplainsdem Yesterday #3
I never read Mein Kampf. I don't want to. But i found the applegrove Yesterday #4
I use Claude pretty regularly for these kinds of analyses Metaphorical Yesterday #6
All you have to do is search for highplainsdem Yesterday #7
Just frigging STOP high jacking other peoples' posts jmbar2 Yesterday #8
I am pointing out facts about AI. If you want to try to argue that it wasn't trained on stolen intellectual property, highplainsdem Yesterday #9
It's not even about AI at this point jmbar2 Yesterday #13
It's entirely about AI, and you know it. I am pointing out why chatbots are an highplainsdem Yesterday #14
Deleting my AI Mein Kampf - Project 2025 OP. applegrove Yesterday #15
You have your parties confused. Being assaulted by 'AI' slop is abusive. 'AI' has no place on a discussion board. xocetaceans Yesterday #10
We are well and truly cooked if people think water-ravenous autocorrect can vomit out anything useful about comparing WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #12
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