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In reply to the discussion: Please do not post AI-generated text, whether OPs or replies, without labeling them AI-generated and naming the AI used. [View all]highplainsdem
(61,409 posts)28. I'm sorry, but you're wrong.
I did not say that non-AI sources can't ever be wrong, even when they're usually correct and have a long and deserved reputation for reliability. But if a DUer checks those usually reliable sources for information and quotes and links to them, they're providing much more useful information than if they quote a chatbot that might provide a completely different answer the next time it's prompted.
The dangers of AI are not from hallucinations, but in wealthy humans and bad actors using AI to the overtly and covertly manipulate people and society. That, and the potential for AI to rise up and just plain put an end to humanity.
Hallucinations are a very real danger. I've seen a lot of AI hallucinatiins offering very dangerous advice, and you've probably seen news stories about those. Hallucinations can happen at any time with LLMs, even if they're trained on accurate information, and if it gets published, online or off, it can get quoted and spread further. That's often described as pollution of our information ecosystem, and it's a serious problem.
wealthy humans and bad actors using AI to the overtly and covertly manipulate people and society
That's a separate danger from AI, which I've posted a number of messages about on DU and other platforms.
the potential for AI to rise up and just plain put an end to humanity
Again, a separate danger from AI, and one I've posted about.
Fraud is a criminal act meant to harm another. "Fraud is the intentional use of deception, trickery, or dishonest acts to deprive another person or entity of money, property, or legal rights for personal gain." While use of AI without disclosing could be fraud, it is not inherently fraudulent. For example, if the Gmail response widget suggests a response, and I use the suggestion as my reply without disclosing, this is not fraud. When I use Google to give a friend directions to my house without disclosing the use of AI, this is not fraud. If I use AI to generate an image and post it to Reddit, this is not fraud.
The definition of fraud includes but is not limited to criminal fraud, and it does not require depriving another person of something.
Fraud is trickery or deception. Period. It can be done to deprive someone else of something. It can also mean deception to gain something. Sometimes it can be so habitual there's little or no conscious intent behind it.
I used that word because in a society with so much deception by AI, we're dealing with a very serious problem.
On a message board, people expect what's posted by someone to be a message from them, unless it's in quotation marks, in which case the source of the quotation should be given. Unless it's a common saying that can't be attributed to anyone.
If someone posts simple information in response to a question, like the translation of a word or a location of some upcoming event, they may or may not have looked it up, and they may or may not give the source. If I need to do some quick googling to answer a question, I'll usually say that I googled it. I used to say "Google is your friend" but Google is doing so much harm now with its AI that it's no longer a friend.
if the Gmail response widget suggests a response, and I use the suggestion as my reply without disclosing, this is not fraud
Yes, it is, unless you've told the person you're writing to that you are using AI in email.
If I use AI to generate an image and post it to Reddit, this is not fraud.
Whether or not it is depends on the image and what you say when you post it.
If you're posting it in a subreddit for AI art, fake art, and everyone would assume it's AI-generated, then it isn't fraud.
If it's posted anywhere else and it's photorealistic and it might trick anyone seeing it into thinking it's a real photo, then it's fraud unless you disclose when you post it that it is AI.
If you post an AI image that isn't photorealistic and you simply say "I did this" or "This is my artwork" then IMO that is fraud, because you did not create that image. An AI did. You might've given it a prompt, but anyone who's ever used gen AI knows it can offer a wide selection of responses from any prompt. You might have spent a lot of time discarding images the AI offered until it finally gave you one you liked, and you might have edited or tweaked it in various ways, but if you just say it's yours, you'd be leading a lot of people to believe it really is your creation, whether digital art or a photo of nondigital visual art like a painting or sketch. And that would be fraud.
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Please do not post AI-generated text, whether OPs or replies, without labeling them AI-generated and naming the AI used. [View all]
highplainsdem
Sunday
OP
I'm glad you label it, but why bother posting what any chatbot says when it might give a different answer
highplainsdem
Sunday
#7
It's still slop. It's still dumb. Our most effective weapons against Trump and his regime are real news,
highplainsdem
Sunday
#3
I'm glad you agree with the labeling. I thought you posted that video as something that you felt
highplainsdem
Sunday
#8
With some small effort one can usually find the source of this plagiarized material.
hunter
Sunday
#6
They don't all add disclaimers, though, here on DU or on other websites - and most of the time they
highplainsdem
Sunday
#12
If people are posting AI generated text here withour saying it's AI, I agree that it should be labeled as such.
ShazzieB
Sunday
#13
Citations for what's in the excerpt boxes? Those are quotes from the message I was replying to.
highplainsdem
Sunday
#43
Not when it's a quote from someone I'm replying to in an excerpt box in a reply following their message.
highplainsdem
Sunday
#49
It's a request, starting with the word "please" - no more a rule or guideline than the many requests
highplainsdem
Sunday
#33
It's a request, made because we have had chatbot responses posted here that weren't identified as
highplainsdem
Sunday
#31
LOL! I hope we all are. Heaven help this board if very much of it turns into a place to trade
highplainsdem
Sunday
#38
This isn't in the TOS. It's a request made for the reasons explained in the OP. And identifying the chatbot helps
highplainsdem
Sunday
#50
I come to DU to find out what other people think. AI doesn't think. It's "artificial!" nt
LAS14
Sunday
#48
Exactly. There are already too many responses from bots in a lot of other online forums.
highplainsdem
Sunday
#58
I ask that an AI tag be added to the subject line so those of us who find AI revolting can easily Trash it a
SheltieLover
Sunday
#51
It's not a trigger for me, but AI in subject makes it easier to trash in settings.
SheltieLover
Sunday
#54
Really? I've posted about lots of other issues, here and on other platforms.
highplainsdem
Sunday
#64