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Crowman2009

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35. Added to that, the most recent protracted wars are still fresh in people's memories.

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Fri Feb 27, 2026, 11:49 AM

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Unless they are the MAGA talabangelical veterans who can't wait for another holy war.

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Anybody here old enough to remeber the beginnigs of US involvement in Viet Nam? [View all] 3_Limes Friday OP

The trick is to wage war without declaring war dalton99a Friday #1

Resulting in 58,000 US soldiers killed, 300,000 wounded. surfered Friday #12

+1. Saigon is now a huge modern metropolis dalton99a Friday #18

That picture is beautiful MarineCombatEngineer Friday #53

Wow! SWBTATTReg Friday #73

Ho Chi Minh City surfered Friday #105

My mind is old popsdenver Friday #25

Even the Korean War was described as a police action dalton99a Friday #30

My father served in Vietnam in 1966-67. He never forgave Johnson and McNamara. mommymarine2003 Friday #34

In December, just before the Tet occurred popsdenver Friday #40

If only your father could have known about... Chemical Bill Friday #104

Yeah, at the time, it wasn't a declared war, it was a so called police action, MarineCombatEngineer Friday #56

It was a slow process. GCG Friday #2

I saw this unfold as a young mother. My son was 3 years old. I feared the war would drag on until he was 18 and he would CTyankee Friday #10

The first US soldier killed in Vietnam Emile Friday #15

Johnson lied America into war via Gulf of Tonkin. Kid Berwyn Friday #3

Because he was lied TO by the generals Jilly_in_VA Friday #67

And the admirals, and the NSA, but most of all the CIA. Kid Berwyn Friday #75

Good old Allen Dulles Jilly_in_VA Friday #76

Maximum temperatures, please. And for John McCloy... Kid Berwyn Friday #88

You don't even have to go back that far. Ritabert Friday #4

+1 dalton99a Friday #6

Balloon the debt, it did popsdenver Friday #29

Ah yes, you're bringing back memories PatSeg Friday #36

I bring up current things popsdenver Friday #43

Not everyone is paying close attention PatSeg Friday #58

I've been paying attention since 1969. Reagan really made me pay attention. Ritabert Friday #63

I remember we paid a lot of attention PatSeg Friday #83

I didn't realize what Reagan and his minions were up to until later... Ritabert Friday #97

It is often different when you right in the middle of it PatSeg Friday #101

You are so right. Ritabert Friday #60

Liars all. Ritabert Friday #59

you took the words off my keyboard WhiteTara Friday #39

The reason we are in the economic mess we're in. Ritabert Friday #62

+1 leftstreet Friday #52

After Vietnam divided in half in the '50s the US provided financial support to the south, Ocelot II Friday #5

I thought Eisenhower had *advisors* in Vietnam during his administration at the request of the French Deuxcents Friday #78

He did. Kennedy started the escalation. Ocelot II Friday #82

Truman started that in 1950. Celerity Friday #87

November 1, 1955 "the official beginning of American involvement in the war" muriel_volestrangler Friday #96

Guess I didn't really ask the right question. 3_Limes Friday #7

Maybe on February 27, 1968: Ocelot II Friday #17

It was probably around that time, PatSeg Friday #38

That' was definitely the time Jilly_in_VA Friday #69

I was in college 1967-1971. There were anti war and civil rights protests all the time. I remember things gaining steam KitFox Friday #37

I started college in 1965 and I had a roommate who was already into the antiwar movement. Ocelot II Friday #41

I cannot speak for the average American but... 303squadron Friday #66

Don't have to look that far back. haele Friday #8

True! Iraq is probably a much better example 3_Limes Friday #11

I remember discussing in in my "Problems of Democracy" class in High Schol Mossfern Friday #9

LOL Moss popsdenver Friday #47

If there's one thing we've learned, we cannot trust anything JD Vance says. surfered Friday #13

Yes, I remember, MarineCombatEngineer Friday #14

Piece of Cake! BidenRocks Friday #61

Excellent!!! MarineCombatEngineer Friday #64

I hate to even think this MCE popsdenver Friday #92

When they asked me to reenlist or extend my enlistment I was told that they wouldn't send me to Vietnam. Ping Tung Friday #16

From one Marine to another... MarineCombatEngineer Friday #46

There was a general I admired. Remember him? Ping Tung Friday #85

Gen. David M. Shoup, there's a name I haven't heard in ages, MarineCombatEngineer Friday #86

His name just came to my brain while going through this thread. I vaguely recall his name because Ping Tung Friday #91

family legend- mopinko Friday #19

why does they agresser side always say ," it will be over in a few weeKs" but in reality war would last 3/4 years or AllaN01Bear Friday #20

The reason is oil or some other resource. multigraincracker Friday #22

It was quagmire before the US became involved. Layzeebeaver Friday #21

+1 dalton99a Friday #24

The movie We Were Soldiers opening depicts the French defeat at Dien Bien Phu. MarineCombatEngineer Friday #50

We had military advisors in VietNam since the eaerly 50's. patphil Friday #23

I have a number of monographs on the subject. NNadir Friday #26

Errol Morris' documentary "The Fog of War" covers this really well. Ocelot II Friday #28

Not really an answer to your question but... llmart Friday #27

And we'll be greeted as liberators and heroes, right? Xavier Breath Friday #31

Unlike 1965, a large percentage of people know the real reason for this current BS war. Crowman2009 Friday #32

I remember JFK snowybirdie Friday #33

The US had advisors there from the early 50's, including when the French niyad Friday #54

Ah yes Jilly_in_VA Friday #70

I just posted before I saw yours..Eisenhower had advisors in Vietnam at the request of the French Deuxcents Friday #79

Added to that, the most recent protracted wars are still fresh in people's memories. Crowman2009 Friday #35

VOTE. IMPEACH. CHARGE. PROSECUTE. CONVICT. EVERY DAMN ONE OF THESE BUMS! Joinfortmill Friday #42

63-67 so four years. By 67 it was Quagmire. Captain Zero Friday #44

WW II in Europe For The US Was 1 Year: D-Day Was 1944. ColoringFool Friday #49

The American Army's air wing was fighting in Europe long before 1944, nonaa Friday #95

In 1948, Ho Chi Minh came to this country, asking for $3 million and niyad Friday #45

Ho Chi Minh warned America The Wizard Friday #55

And, in the end, we betrayed our allies. The images of April 1975 niyad Friday #65

Yes, Back When It Was Indo-China And France Was The Invader. ColoringFool Friday #48

In the 1950s The Wizard Friday #51

I'm not old enough to remember the beginnings, but I remember the 60's and 70's. mommymarine2003 Friday #57

Same with Afghanistan and Iraq. But we were involved in Vietnam from WWII until the disastrous withdrawal in 1975. ChicagoTeamster Friday #68

Born April 1955 BidenRocks Friday #71

A lot of it started (shit had been going with Vietnam, France, China, and others for 100s of years) with WW II Botany Friday #72

Yes, indeed. MineralMan Friday #74

Truman was already making moves in 1950, well before Eisenhower was even elected. Celerity Friday #89

Thanks. A little before my time, I guess. MineralMan Friday #90

Old enough to proofread as well. rzemanfl Friday #77

Kind of, but Vietnam actually started for the French before the Korean War ended for us. maxrandb Friday #80

Just go back to the Iraq war -- tells you what you need to know mainer Friday #81

I would mark the beginning as 1945 when we supported France's return to their former colony. flashman13 Friday #84

"Trump will put the Navy in harms way in a completely untenable situation in the narrow seas in and around... LudwigPastorius Friday #93

They said Admiral Kacher was not a good fit. I agree with you. He was fired because he told them, "don't attack Iran". flashman13 Friday #103

😮‍💨im old enough, service brat. I remember it like it was yesterday, msfiddlestix Friday #94

Great Book - Fire In The Lake OutNow Friday #98

In 1967 Codifer Friday #99

Old enough but smoked too much pot and drank too much beer. kerry-is-my-prez Friday #100

I'm not quite that old, snot Friday #102