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In reply to the discussion: Does "evil" exist" [View all]Kid Berwyn
(23,961 posts)17. Precisely. Who today remembers Curveball?
Curveball should mean strike three for Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld, Tenet, et al.
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It'd be better for everyone, living and dead, for the just to lock up the evil that creates war -- just to make a buck. Take Jeffrey Epstein...
Epstein helping pals make money off war

How Jeffrey Epstein Helped Israel Establish A Police State In This Country The story began in late 2010, when a disputed presidential election in Cote d'Ivoire triggered violence.
Edited by: NDTV News Desk
Nov 16, 2025
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Ouattara's son met Epstein in New York. Three months later, Epstein met Ouattara's niece Nina Keita and then Barak privately at the Regency Hotel. Epstein later flew to Africa, planning stops in Cote d'Ivoire, Angola, and Senegal.
Barak has claimed his dealings with Epstein were private, but documents suggest Epstein acted as a fixer. After leaving office in March 2013, Barak continued negotiating the deal. On March 19, he received an email from his brother-in-law Doron Cohen with materials from MF Group outlining plans for a surveillance and video monitoring centre in Abidjan. Communications were kept secret using cryptic references.
Negotiations were briefly disrupted by a UN report on Israeli-labelled ammunition, and the embargo was extended. Barak then called Israeli security figures including Amos Malka and Michael Micky Federmann, and on May 27, Sidi Tiemoko Toure, Chief of Staff to Ouattara.
Using a non-security pretext of building hospitals, Barak arrived in Abidjan on August 1, 2013, meeting top officials and President Ouattara.
On September 16, 2013, Barak received a 13-page proposal from Aharon Ze'evi-Farkash detailing a SIGINT (Signals Intelligence) system for Cote d'Ivoire. Farkash wrote, The document is based on experience that has been accumulated during Amnon's and my service in the unit I believe this meets the export‑of‑knowledge' test. I thought it appropriate to bring this to your attention.
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https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/how-jeffrey-epstein-helped-israel-establish-a-police-state-in-this-country-9645587
They are evil incarnate.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x451875
It'd be better for everyone, living and dead, for the just to lock up the evil that creates war -- just to make a buck. Take Jeffrey Epstein...
Epstein helping pals make money off war

How Jeffrey Epstein Helped Israel Establish A Police State In This Country The story began in late 2010, when a disputed presidential election in Cote d'Ivoire triggered violence.
Edited by: NDTV News Desk
Nov 16, 2025
Excerpt
Ouattara's son met Epstein in New York. Three months later, Epstein met Ouattara's niece Nina Keita and then Barak privately at the Regency Hotel. Epstein later flew to Africa, planning stops in Cote d'Ivoire, Angola, and Senegal.
Barak has claimed his dealings with Epstein were private, but documents suggest Epstein acted as a fixer. After leaving office in March 2013, Barak continued negotiating the deal. On March 19, he received an email from his brother-in-law Doron Cohen with materials from MF Group outlining plans for a surveillance and video monitoring centre in Abidjan. Communications were kept secret using cryptic references.
Negotiations were briefly disrupted by a UN report on Israeli-labelled ammunition, and the embargo was extended. Barak then called Israeli security figures including Amos Malka and Michael Micky Federmann, and on May 27, Sidi Tiemoko Toure, Chief of Staff to Ouattara.
Using a non-security pretext of building hospitals, Barak arrived in Abidjan on August 1, 2013, meeting top officials and President Ouattara.
On September 16, 2013, Barak received a 13-page proposal from Aharon Ze'evi-Farkash detailing a SIGINT (Signals Intelligence) system for Cote d'Ivoire. Farkash wrote, The document is based on experience that has been accumulated during Amnon's and my service in the unit I believe this meets the export‑of‑knowledge' test. I thought it appropriate to bring this to your attention.
Continues
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/how-jeffrey-epstein-helped-israel-establish-a-police-state-in-this-country-9645587
They are evil incarnate.
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Um, "intelligence, strength, cleverness, wit, charm," are in no way automatically "good" qualities.
Wiz Imp
Thursday
#30
Point taken, they can all be used to evil ends, but they are definitely not EVIL either.
Coventina
Thursday
#37
I'm an atheist, but I know evil exists in this world. There exists people who do horrible things to others, with
sinkingfeeling
Thursday
#8
You know it when you see it - and it must be destroyed - because it is innate, irredeemable, incessant
dalton99a
Thursday
#29
You made my brain work overtime. Do evil people think they are evil or do they just not recognize it.
Ferrets are Cool
Thursday
#34