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EdmondDantes_

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95. The root cause is still Franken then

Wed Feb 25, 2026, 04:56 PM

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It's not like the calls for him to resign came until after it was clear there were multiple women over the course of years, several with contemporaneous telling to others. But the blame continues to go everywhere else.

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Has Sen. Kristen Gillibrand demanded that Rep Tony Gonzalez resign yet? Asking for Al Franken. [View all] Chasstev365 Yesterday OP

Has Warren? Has Sanders? Has Booker? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #1

i thought it was one picture samsingh Yesterday #6

No SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #7

And those accusations were absurd PatSeg Yesterday #18

Hannity and Stone were only involved with the first accuser SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #25

"Franken is doing fine"? PatSeg Yesterday #30

Is he broke and homeless? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #33

It's not how he is doing that is the issue; it's that the electorate was denied one of the best senators ever. Amaryllis Yesterday #41

First he could have run again but hasn't SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #43

Thank you!!! Eom Karma13612 Yesterday #89

It's not about him, it's about us. We are missing out. Pompoy Yesterday #83

How? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #85

That isn't the measure MadameButterfly 21 hrs ago #112

Maybe so SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #114

He regrets stepping down MadameButterfly 21 hrs ago #116

I'm sure he does SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #117

No, I will not let it go. He did NOTHING wrong. Ferrets are Cool Yesterday #44

Republicans, and some Democrats, have done far worse SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #46

It was a comedy skit..eom Karma13612 Yesterday #93

Yes the picture was SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #101

OK... eom Karma13612 8 hrs ago #127

Interesting that he lives in NYC now. SunSeeker Yesterday #79

He could have run for mayor SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #81

Gillibrand was just re-elected in 2024. Quiet Em Yesterday #84

She flamed out running Karma13612 Yesterday #92

She got over one million more votes for Senator than the con artist did at the top of the ticket. Quiet Em Yesterday #94

I'm in NYS Karma13612 23 hrs ago #96

If Schumer retires, AOC will run for his seat. Quiet Em 23 hrs ago #98

That's true SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #102

She managed a photo op? MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #105

More than one SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #113

Where are the "eight others" now? MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #104

They probably have SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #110

That's the false narrative iemanja 20 hrs ago #118

Five Democratic Senators who urged Al to resign ran for President in 2020 DFW Yesterday #11

Harris did get to be VP in 20 SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #13

Indeed she did DFW Yesterday #14

But Gillibrand was the loudest and shriekiest Jilly_in_VA Yesterday #37

Harris was not far behind. DFW Yesterday #61

Whataboutism. Jilly_in_VA Yesterday #65

She definitely took credit for it lame54 Yesterday #78

YES, she will MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #106

My senator in Oregon did to but he came Tree Lady Yesterday #54

I'm not so sure he even intended to run for president DFW Yesterday #59

I guess people just hoped he would Tree Lady Yesterday #66

There was PLENTY of that DFW Yesterday #70

Several Democratic Senators have since apologized to him for their statements urging him to resign. DFW Yesterday #60

They were not the only ones. iemanja 20 hrs ago #121

Only ONE person caused Al Franken to quit. 31st Street Bridge Yesterday #28

Oh, sure DFW Yesterday #62

No, I don't; but a family member does 31st Street Bridge Yesterday #64

So do I DFW Yesterday #68

We need fighters, not people who are going to surrender when the going gets tough 31st Street Bridge Yesterday #71

He was 66 with a deteriorating hip condition with over 40 Democratic Senators who were there to back him up DFW Yesterday #74

Amy Klobuchar didn't even defend him. SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #76

It must have been awful for him. AloeVera 23 hrs ago #97

Schumer was one of two final insults DFW 23 hrs ago #99

Did you ever consider that maybe Al was guilty? 31st Street Bridge 6 hrs ago #131

Since I had known him for years prior to this, plus DFW 3 hrs ago #132

Seems it was all staged outrage that overwhelmed more naive legislators 31st Street Bridge 2 hrs ago #133

Seems the current administration can withstand any attack 31st Street Bridge 6 hrs ago #129

I don't think that's fair SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #75

Bullshit MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #107

More like he deserted our party 31st Street Bridge 6 hrs ago #130

Gillibrand led the charge RVN VET71 9 hrs ago #124

Making a Facebook post is leading the charge? SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #125

GREAT POINT MoseShrute Yesterday #2

Thank you. She certainly led the charge and ginned-up others to follow. QueerDuck Yesterday #3

Actually it was Schumer who led the charge SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #9

I'm aware of his role too. She was the face of it all... QueerDuck Yesterday #10

The corporate media made her the face of it SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #12

So she played into the hands of the "corporate media" ... interesting take. QueerDuck Yesterday #24

No it's those who continue to attack her and only her SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #32

I will always defend him and stand up to the bullies who characterize his resignation as ... QueerDuck Yesterday #38

Never said that his resignation was SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #40

So by not recognizing the saboteurs and denying their motives... QueerDuck Yesterday #51

So every woman that accused him was a saboteur? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #52

What about his apology for giving people reason to mistrust him? EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #58

The damage had been done. Do do otherwise, even if justified, would have been to prolong an... QueerDuck Yesterday #91

The root cause is still Franken then EdmondDantes_ 23 hrs ago #95

. MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #108

That is how I recall it PatSeg Yesterday #21

You are correct. There was much more going on. I remember, too. QueerDuck Yesterday #27

And to make matters even worse, PatSeg Yesterday #35

Hear, hear. peppertree Yesterday #39

Yes, it wasn't so much about sexual misconduct, PatSeg Yesterday #55

Why are you unwilling to accept Franken's account in which he blames Schumer? delisen Yesterday #57

Yes, he was on her bandwagon, as I've said. The damage was done, and had he not piled on, it would have... QueerDuck Yesterday #90

I don, t believe I made the point you are attributing to me.nt delisen 23 hrs ago #100

K & R malaise Yesterday #4

Good question samsingh Yesterday #5

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #8

No MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #15

I see the "blame the woman" narrative endures Sympthsical Yesterday #16

My point is she was more concerned about taking down a political rival than protecting women. Chasstev365 Yesterday #17

But you're singling her out Sympthsical Yesterday #19

Because she used a situation to eliminate Franken purely as a political rival: NOT COOL! Chasstev365 Yesterday #22

So just going to ignore entirely what I said Sympthsical Yesterday #31

I didn't miss your point; I simply don't agree with you! Chasstev365 Yesterday #34

Where is the evidence of that? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #36

https://apnews.com/article/kirsten-gillibrand-andrew-cuomo-al-franken-resignation-a3735f0f78ed6a8949b34cbc82239023 Chasstev365 Yesterday #48

That article doesn't prove your accusation SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #49

"Eventually." She did NOT rush to judgement like she did with Franken. I just proved the point! Chasstev365 Yesterday #50

She and 38 other Senators took almost a month from the first accusation SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #53

Political rival? karynnj Yesterday #45

Politcal rival? Quiet Em Yesterday #63

Don't confuse them with facts SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #67

I don't even understand where that logic comes from. Quiet Em Yesterday #69

There is no logic in demonization SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #73

"Them"? MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #109

Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #115

NEVER! Clouds Passing Yesterday #20

WILL NEVER FORGIVE HER OR FORGET..... a kennedy Yesterday #23

Look at all the whataboutism here Fullduplexxx Yesterday #26

Yes, the "multiple wrongs make a right" attitude is something TiberiusB Yesterday #47

Here is Jane Meyer's story suegeo Yesterday #56

Due process is a judicial standard SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #72

You betcha... PCIntern Yesterday #29

Who is your Senator? Quiet Em Yesterday #42

As a Minnesotan . . . Scubamatt Yesterday #77

Will you ever forgive Bernie Sanders? Jose Garcia Yesterday #80

Will you ever forgive Kamala Harris? Jose Garcia Yesterday #82

She was definitely the loudest. Kingofalldems Yesterday #86

Thank you! Chasstev365 Yesterday #87

The women-blaming narrative requires putting the blame on her iemanja 20 hrs ago #120

Yes, women should be quiet, especially when sexual harassment is being discussed Jose Garcia 8 hrs ago #128

Nice one!!!! I'll second that!!! Karma13612 Yesterday #88

It was such an OBVIOUS right wing smear MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #103

Ditto. I will never support Gillibrand in any way shape or form. I even called up her office and told her staffers that PatrickforB 21 hrs ago #111

Bernie too? Kamala? iemanja 20 hrs ago #119

Absolutely Al graycampervan 17 hrs ago #122

No, that was Ted Kennedy SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #126

Gillibrand BGRD 14 hrs ago #123