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Sympthsical

(10,931 posts)
16. I see the "blame the woman" narrative endures
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 09:44 AM
11 hrs ago

Despite leadership and pretty much every other senator saying the same thing. Schumer leading the caucus into it, and Harris was absolutely in front of cameras then as well.

But the real issue was this - which people either forgot or pretend they never knew. The reason Gillibrand came in for some shit at the time is because she dared say that maybe Bill Clinton's past behavior with women wasn't great.

The lèse-majesté of it all.

And that's when the knives for her came out in behind the scenes Democratic circles. Oh, some insiders didn't like that one bit. So with Franken, they saw an opportunity to sandbag her as Single-Handedly Destroying a Democratic Man.

It shouldn't have been that easy to get people to swallow that narrative and carry it for years, but the Internet is a funny little place. Talking points from the right place get accepted wholesale.

When MeToo became, "MeToo . . . but not our people!"

It continues to be a look. A, dare I say, misogynistic one at that.

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Has Warren? Has Sanders? Has Booker? SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #1
i thought it was one picture samsingh 12 hrs ago #6
No SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #7
And those accusations were absurd PatSeg 11 hrs ago #18
Hannity and Stone were only involved with the first accuser SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #25
"Franken is doing fine"? PatSeg 10 hrs ago #30
Is he broke and homeless? SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #33
It's not how he is doing that is the issue; it's that the electorate was denied one of the best senators ever. Amaryllis 10 hrs ago #41
First he could have run again but hasn't SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #43
Thank you!!! Eom Karma13612 4 hrs ago #89
It's not about him, it's about us. We are missing out. Pompoy 5 hrs ago #83
How? SocialDemocrat61 5 hrs ago #85
That isn't the measure MadameButterfly 2 hrs ago #112
Maybe so SocialDemocrat61 1 hr ago #114
He regrets stepping down MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #116
I'm sure he does SocialDemocrat61 1 hr ago #117
No, I will not let it go. He did NOTHING wrong. Ferrets are Cool 10 hrs ago #44
Republicans, and some Democrats, have done far worse SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #46
It was a comedy skit..eom Karma13612 4 hrs ago #93
Yes the picture was SocialDemocrat61 3 hrs ago #101
Interesting that he lives in NYC now. SunSeeker 5 hrs ago #79
He could have run for mayor SocialDemocrat61 5 hrs ago #81
Gillibrand was just re-elected in 2024. Quiet Em 5 hrs ago #84
She flamed out running Karma13612 4 hrs ago #92
She got over one million more votes for Senator than the con artist did at the top of the ticket. Quiet Em 4 hrs ago #94
I'm in NYS Karma13612 4 hrs ago #96
If Schumer retires, AOC will run for his seat. Quiet Em 4 hrs ago #98
That's true SocialDemocrat61 3 hrs ago #102
She managed a photo op? MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #105
More than one SocialDemocrat61 1 hr ago #113
Where are the "eight others" now? MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #104
They probably have SocialDemocrat61 2 hrs ago #110
That's the false narrative iemanja 1 hr ago #118
Five Democratic Senators who urged Al to resign ran for President in 2020 DFW 12 hrs ago #11
Harris did get to be VP in 20 SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #13
Indeed she did DFW 11 hrs ago #14
But Gillibrand was the loudest and shriekiest Jilly_in_VA 10 hrs ago #37
Harris was not far behind. DFW 8 hrs ago #61
Whataboutism. Jilly_in_VA 7 hrs ago #65
She definitely took credit for it lame54 6 hrs ago #78
YES, she will MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #106
My senator in Oregon did to but he came Tree Lady 9 hrs ago #54
I'm not so sure he even intended to run for president DFW 8 hrs ago #59
I guess people just hoped he would Tree Lady 6 hrs ago #66
There was PLENTY of that DFW 6 hrs ago #70
Several Democratic Senators have since apologized to him for their statements urging him to resign. DFW 8 hrs ago #60
They were not the only ones. iemanja 43 min ago #121
Only ONE person caused Al Franken to quit. 31st Street Bridge 11 hrs ago #28
Oh, sure DFW 8 hrs ago #62
No, I don't; but a family member does 31st Street Bridge 7 hrs ago #64
So do I DFW 6 hrs ago #68
We need fighters, not people who are going to surrender when the going gets tough 31st Street Bridge 6 hrs ago #71
He was 66 with a deteriorating hip condition with over 40 Democratic Senators who were there to back him up DFW 6 hrs ago #74
Amy Klobuchar didn't even defend him. SocialDemocrat61 6 hrs ago #76
It must have been awful for him. AloeVera 4 hrs ago #97
Schumer was one of two final insults DFW 4 hrs ago #99
I don't think that's fair SocialDemocrat61 6 hrs ago #75
Bullshit MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #107
GREAT POINT MoseShrute 13 hrs ago #2
Thank you. She certainly led the charge and ginned-up others to follow. QueerDuck 12 hrs ago #3
Actually it was Schumer who led the charge SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #9
I'm aware of his role too. She was the face of it all... QueerDuck 12 hrs ago #10
The corporate media made her the face of it SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #12
So she played into the hands of the "corporate media" ... interesting take. QueerDuck 11 hrs ago #24
No it's those who continue to attack her and only her SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #32
I will always defend him and stand up to the bullies who characterize his resignation as ... QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #38
Never said that his resignation was SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #40
So by not recognizing the saboteurs and denying their motives... QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #51
So every woman that accused him was a saboteur? SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #52
What about his apology for giving people reason to mistrust him? EdmondDantes_ 8 hrs ago #58
The damage had been done. Do do otherwise, even if justified, would have been to prolong an... QueerDuck 4 hrs ago #91
The root cause is still Franken then EdmondDantes_ 4 hrs ago #95
. MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #108
That is how I recall it PatSeg 11 hrs ago #21
You are correct. There was much more going on. I remember, too. QueerDuck 11 hrs ago #27
And to make matters even worse, PatSeg 10 hrs ago #35
Hear, hear. peppertree 10 hrs ago #39
Yes, it wasn't so much about sexual misconduct, PatSeg 9 hrs ago #55
Why are you unwilling to accept Franken's account in which he blames Schumer? delisen 8 hrs ago #57
Yes, he was on her bandwagon, as I've said. The damage was done, and had he not piled on, it would have... QueerDuck 4 hrs ago #90
I don, t believe I made the point you are attributing to me.nt delisen 3 hrs ago #100
K & R malaise 12 hrs ago #4
Good question samsingh 12 hrs ago #5
Post removed Post removed 12 hrs ago #8
No MustLoveBeagles 11 hrs ago #15
I see the "blame the woman" narrative endures Sympthsical 11 hrs ago #16
My point is she was more concerned about taking down a political rival than protecting women. Chasstev365 11 hrs ago #17
But you're singling her out Sympthsical 11 hrs ago #19
Because she used a situation to eliminate Franken purely as a political rival: NOT COOL! Chasstev365 11 hrs ago #22
So just going to ignore entirely what I said Sympthsical 10 hrs ago #31
I didn't miss your point; I simply don't agree with you! Chasstev365 10 hrs ago #34
Where is the evidence of that? SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #36
https://apnews.com/article/kirsten-gillibrand-andrew-cuomo-al-franken-resignation-a3735f0f78ed6a8949b34cbc82239023 Chasstev365 10 hrs ago #48
That article doesn't prove your accusation SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #49
"Eventually." She did NOT rush to judgement like she did with Franken. I just proved the point! Chasstev365 10 hrs ago #50
She and 38 other Senators took almost a month from the first accusation SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #53
Political rival? karynnj 10 hrs ago #45
Politcal rival? Quiet Em 8 hrs ago #63
Don't confuse them with facts SocialDemocrat61 6 hrs ago #67
I don't even understand where that logic comes from. Quiet Em 6 hrs ago #69
There is no logic in demonization SocialDemocrat61 6 hrs ago #73
"Them"? MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #109
Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 1 hr ago #115
NEVER! Clouds Passing 11 hrs ago #20
WILL NEVER FORGIVE HER OR FORGET..... a kennedy 11 hrs ago #23
Look at all the whataboutism here Fullduplexxx 11 hrs ago #26
Yes, the "multiple wrongs make a right" attitude is something TiberiusB 10 hrs ago #47
Here is Jane Meyer's story suegeo 9 hrs ago #56
Due process is a judicial standard SocialDemocrat61 6 hrs ago #72
You betcha... PCIntern 11 hrs ago #29
Who is your Senator? Quiet Em 10 hrs ago #42
As a Minnesotan . . . Scubamatt 6 hrs ago #77
Will you ever forgive Bernie Sanders? Jose Garcia 5 hrs ago #80
Will you ever forgive Kamala Harris? Jose Garcia 5 hrs ago #82
She was definitely the loudest. Kingofalldems 4 hrs ago #86
Thank you! Chasstev365 4 hrs ago #87
The women-blaming narrative requires putting the blame on her iemanja 51 min ago #120
Nice one!!!! I'll second that!!! Karma13612 4 hrs ago #88
It was such an OBVIOUS right wing smear MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #103
Ditto. I will never support Gillibrand in any way shape or form. I even called up her office and told her staffers that PatrickforB 2 hrs ago #111
Bernie too? Kamala? iemanja 1 hr ago #119
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