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dalton99a

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9. Nazis favored the word ''heimat''
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:53 PM
Feb 13
Nazis favored the word ''heimat,'' or ''homeland,'' and homeland defense forces were known as Heimwehr or Heimatschutz in Austria and Germany from the late 1920's.

For several decades after World War II, Germans rarely used patriotic words like ''heimat'' and ''vaterland,'' Hans Dieter Lucas, a spokesman at the German Embassy here, said.

''People then were reluctant to say 'heimat' or to be proud to be a native of Germany, but that is over,'' Mr. Lucas said. ''The term was misused by the Nazis -- the notion derives from 19th-century Romanticism, to mean your roots, the region where you grew up, your identity, where you belong, and that is how we use 'heimat' today.''

For the United States, the political origins of homeland security go back to the 1997 Quadrennial Defense Review mandated by Congress. While no one can remember who came up with the phrase, it shows up as part of a recommendation to put an ''increased emphasis on homeland defense.''

''In the discussions we had about antiterrorism in the building, we used the term 'homeland security' or 'defense,' '' said Kenneth H. Bacon, the former Pentagon spokesman. ''It does sort of have Germanic implications to it, and from that standpoint, it may carry unfortunate baggage, but I think it's descriptive.''

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/31/us/washington-talk-prickly-roots-of-homeland-security.html

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I recall when it was created & there were many who opposed it. SheltieLover Feb 13 #1
Including moi! Mme. Defarge Feb 13 #2
Me too... SheltieLover Feb 13 #4
If I remember correctly, the wet dream was actually pnac's. We knew they niyad Feb 13 #20
Yes. SheltieLover Feb 13 #22
Way back when I saved a report on PNAC pat_k Feb 13 #28
Would you consider posting this as its own OP, for wider niyad Feb 13 #32
I was one MustLoveBeagles Feb 13 #14
Me too, Beagles! SheltieLover Feb 13 #15
Yep TimeToGo Feb 13 #16
I was suspicious right from the start when they used the term "Homeland". llmart Feb 13 #17
Same here. SheltieLover Feb 13 #23
My elderly father, who was raised as a farm Republican, was absolutely INCENSED by Jack Valentino Feb 13 #35
Your dad sounds like a great patriot! SheltieLover Feb 13 #36
I forgot to say my 'late' father.... he died in 2020, at the age of 91... Jack Valentino Feb 13 #38
So sorry for your loss. SheltieLover Saturday #40
I particularly miss him when working on my garden, which is something we did together Jack Valentino Saturday #41
The fear of immigrants coming here goes hand-in-hand with racism FakeNoose Feb 13 #3
I Wholly Agree - It Was a Corrupt Idea and Violation of the American Credo from the Get-go The Roux Comes First Feb 13 #5
Absolutely! (does not excuse the current further corruption) pat_k Feb 13 #26
I always hated that name Homeland MacKasey Feb 13 #6
When I first heard homeland under the Bush administration, Sanity Claws Feb 13 #7
I think when we redeem our national soul 1WorldHope Feb 13 #8
Now, that's an idea! pat_k Feb 13 #33
Whose time has come! 🙂 1WorldHope Feb 13 #37
Nazis favored the word ''heimat'' dalton99a Feb 13 #9
We are a Nation, not some ethnic Homeland. pat_k Feb 13 #30
So say we all. BidenRocks Feb 13 #10
Yes, the entire reorganization that led to DHS (and that un-American name) needs to be undone. JHB Feb 13 #11
republicans are an organizational mess BaronChocula Feb 13 #12
Using the word "homeland" has always given me the willies. It's creepy. paleotn Feb 13 #13
I have no doubt that it was intended. pat_k Feb 13 #34
INDEED! For anybody 'white', this is NOT their 'homeland'! Jack Valentino Feb 13 #39
Bush legacy malaise Feb 13 #18
It was a harmful idea from the start dlk Feb 13 #19
A Lot of Us Deep State Witch Feb 13 #21
end this travesty. quakerboy Feb 13 #24
I remember in the GW Bush days when the government formed DHS and they began infringing phylny Feb 13 #25
Ugh is right. pat_k Saturday #43
Referring to the country as "Homeland" should have set off klaxon horns during W's administration Tim S Feb 13 #27
For many it did -- but tragically not enough. pat_k Feb 13 #31
DURec leftstreet Feb 13 #29
DHS is some nazi bullshit. Always has been. Iggo Saturday #42
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