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Ol Janx Spirit

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6. Americans are just clamoring to have more red tape in their lives and fewer...

Wed Feb 11, 2026, 08:52 PM

Feb 11

...pencils for school and dolls for Christmas.

“It’s just common sense. Americans need an ID to drive, to open a bank account, to buy cold medicine, to file government assistance,” Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., told reporters. “So why would voting be any different than that?”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-passes-save-america-act-trump-backed-election-bill-rcna258614

Meanwhile....

Trump said, "No state in the country verifies United States citizenship as a condition for voting in federal elections."

The kernel of truth here is that the federal form to register to vote doesn’t require documentation to prove citizenship. But applicants who use that federal form, or register using state forms, must attest to being citizens. Voter registration forms warn applicants that signing the form with false information is a crime. There have been scattered cases of non-citizens who cast ballots, but among millions of votes cast they are statistically rare.

Some states told us that they access federal or state databases to verify citizenship of voters. Such methods have sometimes erroneously flagged citizen voters. While they are not foolproof, they do contradict Trump’s claim that no states verify U.S. citizenship for federal elections.

We rate this statement Mostly False.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/07/do-states-verify-u-s-citizenship-condition-voting/6480041002/

We don't have a "people vote illegally" problem in this country; we have a "millions of people who are eligible to vote don't do it" problem.

The SAVE America Act will disenfranchise millions of eligible voters who do not have easy access to the documents required or the time to jump through the hoops.

I'm not sure Mike Johnson knows this however: a lot of those people vote R at the moment.

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House passes SAVE America Act, sending Trump-backed election bill to the Senate (NBC) [View all] Munu Feb 11 OP

Any word on whether this one is as DOA in the Senate as the last version? pat_k Feb 11 #1

Schumer said its DOA they will fillbuster it.nt. drray23 Feb 11 #3

Thanks! pat_k Feb 11 #11

Senate bill won't match the house one to a certain extent................. Lovie777 Feb 11 #2

How much fucking proof do these psychopaths need for you to vote? Initech Feb 11 #4

At least they're not asking for proof that you're a property owner.... yet Tim S Feb 11 #5

If it was up to the MAGAts... Dulcinea Feb 11 #8

One reform I'd like to see is LINES equal FINES. Time is money, and lines are a poll tax. pat_k Feb 11 #12

Americans are just clamoring to have more red tape in their lives and fewer... Ol Janx Spirit Feb 11 #6

I wouldn't be able to prove citizenship pat_k Feb 11 #13

I'm so sorry to hear about your situation. If passed this bill will impact millions in a similar way... Ol Janx Spirit Feb 11 #14

Is this the bill that requires women to have the same last name as their birth certificate, or some such that Sogo Feb 11 #7

Yep edhopper Feb 11 #9

Would be thrown out edhopper Feb 11 #10

MaddowBlog-Targeting elections, House GOP advances the SAVE America Act, a solution in search of a problem LetMyPeopleVote Feb 12 #15

MaddowBlog-Trump falsely claims that the U.S. is 'the only country that has mail-in ballots' LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #16