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42. MaddowBlog-Dems enraged after Trump's DOJ targeted veterans with charges of seditious conspiracy
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 03:12 PM
Feb 11

“If these f—ers think that they’re going to intimidate us and threaten and bully me into silence … they have another thing coming,” one Democrat said.

Dems enraged after Trump’s DOJ targeted veterans with charges of seditious conspiracy - MS NOW

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https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/dems-enraged-after-trumps-doj-targeted-veterans-with-charges-of-seditious-conspiracy

In legal circles, it’s known as “no bill.” That’s the label used to describe what happens when prosecutors go to a grand jury to secure an indictment and jury members reject the effort.

If it seems as if the phrase has been coming up more frequently in recent months, it’s not your imagination. Donald Trump’s Justice Department has run into “no bill” setbacks repeatedly of late, in cases ranging from former FBI Director James Comey to New York Attorney General Letitia James to Sean Dunn (better known as the “sandwich guy”).

The latest example, however, is arguably the most dramatic: MS NOW reported that a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has declined to indict at least two Democratic senators — Arizona’s Mark Kelly and Michigan’s Elissa Slotkin — on charges of seditious conspiracy......

That’s precisely what happened. As The New York Times summarized:

It was remarkable that the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington — led by Jeanine Pirro, a longtime ally of Mr. Trump’s — authorized prosecutors to go into a grand jury and ask for an indictment. … But it was even more remarkable that a group of ordinary citizens sitting on the grand jury in Federal District Court in Washington forcefully rejected Mr. Trump’s bid to label their expression of dissent as a criminal act warranting prosecution.


That’s certainly correct, though I’d add that it’s also remarkable to note the crime that Trump’s DOJ accused the Democratic lawmakers of committing: Seditious conspiracy is a serious felony charge that’s rarely pursued. The idea that members of Congress crossed that line, and effectively conspired to undermine the authority of the government by reminding service members to follow the law and reject illegal orders, is insane......

Democratic Rep. Jason Crow of Colorado, a decorated Army veteran who served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, was even more candid. “If these f–––ers think that they’re going to intimidate us and threaten and bully me into silence, and they’re going to go after political opponents and get us to back down, they have another thing coming,” Crow said. “The tide is turning.”

As for the party’s leadership, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries was also unreserved, declaring in a written statement: “The Grand Jury upheld and honored the Constitution, doing what Donald Trump and his corrupt Republican sycophants lack the character to do. The attempt to indict Members of Congress for exercising their constitutionally-protected First Amendment rights is another shameful example of the cancerous rot that engulfs the Trump administration.”

The New York Democrat concluded, “Donald Trump, Jeanine Pirro and the corrupt political hacks at the Department of Justice will not silence or intimidate us. Every attempt to weaponize the criminal justice system will only strengthen our resolve as we work to end the National nightmare that extreme MAGA Republicans are inflicting on the country. They will all be held accountable for their lawlessness.”

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Maybe now the monster will stop targeting his enemies? vapor2 Feb 10 #1
It's just legal harassment! It usually costs money to defend against most charges--- Jack Valentino Feb 10 #14
Never. SergeStorms Feb 11 #39
Not really a surprise senseandsensibility Feb 10 #2
Huge - KABOOM, malaise Feb 10 #3
Illegal orders you mean. pwb Feb 10 #4
This UTUSN Feb 10 #23
They are not going to stop. johnnyfins Feb 10 #5
Correct they will keep trying newdeal2 Feb 10 #11
That's a relief MustLoveBeagles Feb 10 #6
Trump administration fails to secure indictment in connection with Democrats involved in 'illegal orders' video LetMyPeopleVote Feb 10 #7
Pirro: brakester Feb 11 #37
Ham sandwiches apparently have more criminal tendencies Ocelot II Feb 10 #8
Well Duh! What "crime" were they supposed to have committed according to the DOJ? Wiz Imp Feb 10 #9
According to the NYT, "interfering with the loyalty, morale or discipline of the U.S. armed forces" muriel_volestrangler Feb 11 #30
That is great news! mysteryowl Feb 10 #10
That's illegal orders not legal orders WmChris Feb 10 #12
This UTUSN Feb 10 #24
So Pirro decided to go ahead and make herself look like a drunk fool again mdbl Feb 10 #13
She Was Born to the Role The Roux Comes First Feb 10 #26
For a small period of time, it looked like she might try to rehab mdbl Feb 11 #32
the J6 king himself, whining about "seditious behavior" Skittles Feb 10 #15
Good on them canetoad Feb 10 #16
Old "Drinky" Jeanine's batting average keeps dropping. LudwigPastorius Feb 10 #17
Here's the video of Chris Hayes' announcement: Rhiannon12866 Feb 10 #18
Now sue them for 20 Billion dollars! BidenRocks Feb 10 #19
YES!!!!!! calimary Feb 10 #20
Hooray! mahina Feb 10 #21
OMG, we won ONE LilElf70 Feb 10 #22
Can the grand jury transcripts be made public? Tasmanian Devil Feb 10 #25
Mark Kelly is worth a thousand tRumps. Dave Bowman Feb 10 #27
Bondi will try again Mz Pip Feb 10 #28
Dont celebrate yet Smackdown2019 Feb 10 #29
At least he should be in a good mood next week............ n/t DFW Feb 11 #31
Grand Jury Rebuffs Justice Dept. Attempt to Indict 6 Democrats in Congress (NYT Gift Subscription) LetMyPeopleVote Feb 11 #33
Good Botany Feb 11 #34
Excellent! Fuck you Pete Hegseth! Initech Feb 11 #35
Refuse ILLEGAL Orders, not Legal MineralMan Feb 11 #36
Excellent! ShazzieB Feb 11 #38
Fix your post Mysterian Feb 11 #40
People over power. And ultimately, we the people KPN Feb 11 #41
MaddowBlog-Dems enraged after Trump's DOJ targeted veterans with charges of seditious conspiracy LetMyPeopleVote Feb 11 #42
I expected this, given the fact that the Uniform Code of Military Justice states this quite clearly. patphil Feb 11 #43
No grand jurors found the Trump DOJ met low probable cause threshold in failed indictment of Democratic lawmakers LetMyPeopleVote Feb 11 #44
Deadline Legal Blog-Grand jury's refusal to indict Democrats joins a stunning pattern of DOJ rejections LetMyPeopleVote Feb 12 #45
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