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jfz9580m

(16,701 posts)
45. K&R
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:56 PM
Feb 5

I am not American, but some of the people closest to me are..

Or no…wait..they are in an undisclosed location in uhhh Australia.

The truth is that I have stopped contacting people I know who live over there - white, nonwhite, even republican (I have Republican friends! Well not quite, but I know some irl decent humans who were at least honest conservatives) or democrat.

Seeing as they are across the board honest, I can’t see them appealing to Trump once any confusion is out of the way.

People can be so daft over politics - parroting the rubbish that is mainstream. I wish we could pressure Jon Stewart into running. That would be kinda mean to Stewart since well-meaning leaders are hated as much the assholes. And no one will be able to fix the mess these assholes leave behind and our ahistorical society will blame whoever gets handed this mess. But someone has to take a hit for team humanity and a little too much agreeability aside, Stewart is trustworthy as Nathan Robinson pointed out.

Sleazy grifters/sellouts/sycophants/bullies of some kind or another are the only people Trump appeals to on a long enough timeline. No Kings is a very appropriate slogan that way.

Hell..I am a rubbish scientist. But today if I turned on academia and enthusiastically championed the GOP (Beaglegate!!!), I would probably find it easy enough to ..actually no..I would have to be a totally different human.

Even bullshit grift and hustle take more energy than I have. One of my main complaints with these out of control surveillance and bs economies is that absent the motivation required for truly worthwhile, non-performative work sans creepy drivel and panopticons run by sleazy morons, I give up entirely. It takes so much concentration to do real work that it is way harder for any but the apolitical. And it worries me if scientists who do worthwhile work now have to drop that and protest all the time. At least I was a lousy scientist no one wil miss. That is not true of the scientists I valued most.

No political party is any sort of path to science. But since Colbert’s reality’s liberal bias thing (that too in such a right shifted world) is true I do come out as left of centre. Jon Stewart’s Al Sharpton thing I suppose. Only someone with no prospects can. And if I ever have any, as much as I avoid realpolitik close to my actual life, I have to file some complaints.

The Republican-Democrat dichotomy alone is out of touch with these times imo. Oligarchy is a close partner to fascism and this article does not really address that. Probably because
Esquire is owned by Hearst. That writer is only allowed to go so far in the truth to power stuff.

The business class of a player type does not like instability to the point where their profits are affected. And that Upton Sinclair quote pretty much nailed it - the disingenuousness of the person whose livelihood depends on promoting drivel as meaningful work.

Which is why the business class routinely trashes the public sector and wants to dispense with the kind of regulation Lina Khan and the Warren wing of the party (the one I am sympathetic to aside from the Bernie faction) was bringing in and absent that it truly is a bandaid.

My sole overlap with any GOP adjacent headspace is sardonically eying even a rattlesnake like Hawley and wondering if he could have a stopped clock, pest control function wrt the mercenaries of Google, Palantir, Microsoft, Musk etc..probably for the worst reasons, but I have scant sympathy for mercenary Perilaus types like Shyam Sankar and Sundar Pichai. Anyway he is one of Thiel’s so that is unlikely.

Anyway…

It does alarm me that I do avoid people I know by now - some of the most respectable people in society by even the most exacting standards I kid you not. That cannot possibly be right…

This is fucked up. Thanks The Prole. Good article. I do not know about footsteps, but definitely serious accountability and for the tech overlords who are gaming democracy as well.

A significant failure of the Obama administration was entertaining people like Larry Summers and the creepy technocrats from Google/Facebook etc.

Without holding the oligarchs and corporate overlords of Musk Inc/Google/Facebook/Palantir/Microsoft/Oracle/Hollywood/ some of the press accountable it will all be more kayfabe and rearranging deckchairs.

Things have been rotten a lot longer than Trump and it is sourced to a private sector coup of the state dating back to the Obama era.

I myself am gearing up to file complaints in my country about appalling rot.

I was a publicly funded scientist and never had a problem with the normal NIH. I had many problems with Google and this permacrisis has made it impossible to avoid this low effort stuff I am dubious about. But the high effort stuff needs checks against this to work.

I have contacted a few left leaning journalists I can trust to not turn things into a spectacle. What I cannot allow is my being used for what happened to Dr Fauci. I am a complainant, but not stupid.

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We're heading toward Robespierre... I'm just not sure if he will wear red or blue. WarGamer Feb 5 #1
I'm all for revival of the guillotine. littlemissmartypants Feb 5 #11
What if it's Miller at the controls? WarGamer Feb 5 #12
Or, to your Robespierre point, a "good guy" who turns into Miller TheProle Feb 5 #16
Exactly... as Robespierre himself did. WarGamer Feb 5 #17
He'll be hanged or emigrated to Russia or Venezuela by then. littlemissmartypants Feb 5 #23
Want to borrow mine? KS Toronado Feb 6 #72
Calling all DIY'ers dweller Feb 5 #37
Hahaha!! Getting a head!!! 😆❤️😆 littlemissmartypants Feb 5 #43
We're going to need a lot of these! N/T tonekat Feb 6 #88
Gravity.... MarcoZandrini Feb 6 #73
Agree. I'm thinking our biggest problem will be, bluestarone Feb 6 #86
The irony, bluestarone, of... littlemissmartypants Feb 6 #94
even he fell victim to the mobs. Javaman Feb 6 #65
Let's At Least Give Our Version A Try Before ASSuming..... ColoringFool Feb 6 #67
I was never able to catch on to knitting Bettie Feb 6 #80
I'm a great knitter! We'll sit together. Scrivener7 Feb 6 #89
They're not wrong! Unrepentant Fenian Feb 5 #2
No. They aren't. If B.See Feb 5 #4
Thanks! Unrepentant Fenian Feb 5 #47
Elizabeth Warren: "My Plan to End Washington Corruption" (Sep 16, 2019) TheProle Feb 5 #5
That's a fantastic point to ponder and unravel. WarGamer Feb 5 #19
My opinion is it was on purpose angrychair Feb 5 #41
The Biden AG delayed the Jan 6th investigation until it was too late. And ignored the Epstein Files. LiberalLovinLug Feb 6 #95
If it was that low in 2019 fujiyamasan Feb 6 #59
40 plus years of Limbaugh and then copycats. Faux News. "The Fleecing of America." Tea Party. MAGA. and all Evolve Dammit Feb 6 #84
She's a goddess. Scrivener7 Feb 6 #90
Seize MAGA assets and thrown the bums in jail pfitz59 Feb 5 #3
I don't see Newsom singing Kumbaya over a a campfire log tavernier Feb 5 #6
"Kumbaya" is a judgment call, TheProle Feb 5 #7
Or... Mr. Evil Feb 6 #54
How about "keep your enemies close, but don't give them a platform to spew their fascist ideology"? LudwigPastorius Feb 6 #55
I do think that was a ridiculous thing for him to do. BUT Scrivener7 Feb 6 #91
Same. TheProle Feb 6 #96
Can't happen soon enough justaprogressive Feb 5 #8
i agree completely samsingh Feb 5 #9
And God help the asshole who says, "Patience grasshopper" or Scrivener7 Feb 6 #92
absolutely samsingh Saturday #98
Archive, no paywall: littlemissmartypants Feb 5 #10
Thank you, littlemissmartypants TheProle Feb 5 #13
I couldn't agree more Seinan Sensei Feb 5 #14
Ask Jack Smith to be Attorney General. mdbl Feb 5 #15
I've had that thought myself !!! Jack Valentino Feb 5 #46
Good luck getting him confirmed. returnee Feb 6 #64
As they would say, BidenRocks Feb 5 #18
One of the reasons we're on this situation is because President Joe was too (darn) nice Vogon_Glory Feb 5 #20
An9ther reason is Nixon did not Bettie Feb 5 #22
Not Quite "Simply." He Was Actually Pardoned By Ford. ColoringFool Feb 6 #68
You're right Bettie Feb 6 #71
We don't really know what the Biden Administration was doing or not doing. Joinfortmill Feb 5 #26
- Lemon Lyman Feb 5 #21
I'm a hard no for both of them. We need them where they are. littlemissmartypants Feb 5 #25
Don't leave out the credit. The author is Charlie Pierce JHB Feb 5 #24
If you haven't read Pierce, 3825-87867 Feb 5 #27
Fuck yes. Gavin would be good at that. nt SunSeeker Feb 5 #28
If the USA survives as intended by the Founders who fought against the kings-men. sanatanadharma Feb 5 #29
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. dalton99a Feb 5 #30
Maybe Just Jerome Feb 5 #31
There are so many criminals and so many crimes; a special organization must be set up to persecute the criminals so that ShazamIam Feb 5 #32
Like South Africa -- after all, Trmp has been trying to re-create their old gov't ! nt eppur_se_muova Feb 6 #61
Agree. Hopefully we reach this point. nm mikewv Feb 5 #33
Wow, that's Esquire Magazine Figarosmom Feb 5 #34
It has to be severe and uncompromising swong19104 Feb 5 #35
He/She needs to clear out all the traitors and all the cowards. Which leaves very few. rickyhall Feb 5 #36
Unfortunately, I think we will need a Democratic President Buddyzbuddy Feb 5 #38
I love what you've written here... slightlv Feb 5 #50
Thank you. I agree with your response as well. Buddyzbuddy Feb 6 #56
I love President Obama, but he let Bush, et al off the hook rhiannon55 Feb 5 #39
I think Dems want to govern slightlv Feb 5 #52
And the ATTORNEY GENERAL . . . AverageOldGuy Feb 5 #40
The party needs to adopt a new paradigm. yellow dahlia Feb 5 #42
Hear! Hear!! Please somebody, break us out of the Ivory Tower feedback loop!! littlemissmartypants Feb 5 #44
I think Chris Murphy brings a new style of messaging, and it is effective. yellow dahlia Feb 5 #51
You're so right, yd. Excellent points! I like him bunches. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Feb 6 #57
K&R jfz9580m Feb 5 #45
Post removed Post removed Feb 5 #48
I would absolutely sign up to be that myself EnergizedLib Feb 5 #49
I keep saying I am voting for firebrand Dems. AllyCat Feb 5 #53
EXCELLENT! Yes, URGENT ACTION is REQUIRED!!! liberalla Feb 6 #58
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is it a prince song? rampartd Feb 6 #62
There must be a scorched earth approach to accountability. Solly Mack Feb 6 #63
if we are to redeem ourselves in the eyes of the world... Javaman Feb 6 #66
If only Biden and especially Garland had been with the document case JT45242 Feb 6 #69
Better Headline Needed Roy Rolling Feb 6 #70
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I want people to ellie Feb 6 #75
# 1 thing. Do not celebrate. Raven123 Feb 6 #76
Author: Charles Pierce. Grins Feb 6 #77
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I hope we've all learned that lesson. Give no quarter. Martin68 Feb 6 #81
There won't be a Dem President unless somebody steps up to this challenge. Bluetus Feb 6 #82
Yes. We're reaping the fruits of the last one not being that, and that may have been our last chance. Crunchy Frog Feb 6 #83
The next president needs to be Gavin Newsom. roamer65 Feb 6 #85
I want someone with the brains, ego, and bedside manner of a really good doctor Lulu KC Feb 6 #87
I don't think it unreasonable to expect the following people to be imprisoned indefinitely: Escape Feb 6 #93
indefinitely... a few of them at least. B.See Feb 6 #97
Huge tribunal with the ability to process these criminals quickly for committing treason travelingthrulife Saturday #99
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