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26. really poor journalism in that Huffpo clickbait
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 05:03 PM
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...they cherrypick a couple quotes out of context and then jump to the supposition:

In what “extraordinary and unusual circumstances” would these masked militiamen be justified in hiding their identities?


That's been answered several times, and appears apparent to the author of the article who chose to be dense and specious about the caveat that Democrats' demand that ICE and DHS adhere to normal police standards employed all around the country, which, have expected carve-outs for officers and agents engaged in things like anti-terrorism or undercover activities that have always been afforded the ability to conceal identities.

They're not talking about the agents we see terrorizing people. They're just not.

read what Sen. Schumer said today, not what someone else is trying to stir up:

Leader Schumer:

Senate Democrats. We're united from one end of our party to the other and we put together some simple common sense proposals that are done every day that are used by police forces and local sheriffs everywhere.

They have three basic objectives. One is to end these roving patrols. You can't just pick someone up on the street, not uh and put them in a dark prison without any kind of warrant. You can't bust someone's door down without any kind of warrant. That's the Constitution. Yet, that's what's going on despicably on the streets of Minnesota and other places.

We're also saying in terms of the roving patrols, some places are off limits, schools, houses of worship, election places. We're saying there shouldn't be racial profiling when they pick people up. And we're saying they can't take an American citizen and lock them up without a warrant, without due process.

The second area we're talking about is accountability and enforcement. These we need a code of force, a force code that's used by states, by police officers all over the states. When you use force and when you don't. We need real training for these people. When you watch the videos, you see they're totally untrained. They're brutal. They're nasty.

We also need to have enforcement that you can go to court and stop this ICE force from doing things. And we need the local and uh uh state governments to be able to force them to do certain things they can't do.

And finally, and maybe most important, no secret police. These guys go around, these people go around with masks. It makes them more brutal. They're never accountable. No one even knows who they are.

There should be cameras. Everyone should have cameras and there should be rules on how they use them. And they have to have regular uniforms, not all the stuff they're wearing. But we cannot have secret police...

There should be no masks except in the most of unusual circumstances. You know, if some guy's picture was put up by a terrorist group or something... but there should be no masks.

...Johnson, the speaker has said he wants to keep the mask. Well, I guarantee you when you go down to his district in Louisiana, the sheriffs and police are identified, fully identified with their name and uh, their number.

That has to happen across America to prevent these rogue forces from terrorizing cities. No secret police. No, no, no, no secret police. I can't even believe we're saying that in America. It's so unamerican. I understand the the administration has expressed concerns about doxing and things like that. I I I want you to like me uh no masks, no secret police - and also an understanding that that that we'll do whatever everyone will do whatever we can to protect them from doxing and from from other things if there are activists that try to to bring harm to them.

But but police officers don't wear masks. Sheriffs don't wear masks. They shouldn't wear masks. And they face the the local police, the local sheriffs face the same problems that these guys have in terms of the potential of doxing and they're able to deal with it but not mask up.

This is just incredible. The American people are asking the Republicans and asking Johnson, why are you against ident police having identities? Why are you against Why are you still saying they should wear masks? They don't have a good answer. They've had no good answers to any of these questions.


And as you said, even President Trump is realizing that they're on the wrong side of this issue. They're on the wrong side morally. They're on the wrong side in in terms of just being an American because we in America have always had these values, have always had this and these rogue this rogue uh ICE group is just terrorizing our cities and violating the constitution every minute they're on the streets and it's showing up in the polling as you say...

watch:


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You have details on that? MineralMan Thursday #1
Gone from "no masks" to "no masks except when..." mr715 Thursday #10
No mention of the rest of their positions, eh? MineralMan Thursday #11
Posted it right there in the title. Did you miss it? mr715 Thursday #12
Of Course, It's Not a "Full Retreat" Why So Negative on our Dems? Cha Thursday #35
House leadership Cirsium Thursday #13
How is it caving if it wasn't on the table? leftstreet Thursday #2
They originally said "No masks" now Cattledog Thursday #3
Oh. I never saw that in their statements n/t leftstreet Thursday #6
leadership's position now Cirsium Thursday #14
Sen. Schumer said today bigtree Thursday #28
That isn't the issue Cirsium Thursday #36
no, what you're saying isn't the issue here bigtree Thursday #39
Thanks Cirsium Thursday #42
Yet another anti-Schumer & Jefferies thread MorbidButterflyTat Thursday #4
Schumer and Jeffries are fine politicians leftstreet Thursday #8
Capriciousness? Cirsium Thursday #15
Anti-Schumer & Jeffries Knee-jerk Syndrome. betsuni Thursday #16
We can't seem to win Just_Vote_Dem Thursday #17
Again and again, Democrats do what people say they want. Then it's not what they want. betsuni Thursday #20
Keep normalizing the indefensible mr715 Thursday #18
Keep what, now? betsuni Thursday #22
poster looks to be advocating 'defending the indefensible' bigtree Thursday #25
Quick question... EarlG Thursday #31
They should be required to identify themselves. mr715 Thursday #32
From this, my understanding is EarlG Thursday #33
That I am not Schumer or Jeffries mr715 Thursday #34
Got it EarlG Thursday #37
This is a perfect articulation of my thoughts on this. mr715 Thursday #38
Thanks EarlG Thursday #43
I Appreciate your thoughts on Clarifying What Huff Past Cha Thursday #40
haven't they done this? bigtree Thursday #44
I think everything you say has value EarlG Thursday #46
betsuni Isn't "normalizing" Anything, nt Cha Thursday #47
The correct context is: Masks. Ice wearing masks. Duncan Grant Thursday #21
... orangecrush Thursday #5
LINK? justaprogressive Thursday #7
Quick search, but from yesterday. Maybe something changed. mr715 Thursday #9
really poor journalism in that Huffpo clickbait bigtree Thursday #26
They're insisting on changing how ICE dresses Bobstandard Thursday #19
You do realize there are circumstances in which other groups wear masks? EdmondDantes_ Thursday #23
ICE conducts racist "hunts". They're not police. Duncan Grant Thursday #24
Post removed Post removed Thursday #27
How is anyone surprised? AltairIV Thursday #29
you're drafting all of that derision over sophistry bigtree Thursday #30
Cattledog, What are your thoughts on what Sen Chris Murphy has to say.? Cha Thursday #41
They have to absolutely be strong on this one. It's insane that they wear masks, among many other seriously big issues themaguffin Thursday #45
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