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67. You're one of those "watched too many movies" people I was talking about

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Masked ICE agents might be okay, says Dem leadership [View all] mr715 Yesterday OP

Anytime I see Dems soften their demands I kacekwl Yesterday #1

Sadly, neither am I ...incredibly disappointed but not Phoenix61 Yesterday #6

And this is before any negotiations. They're just smacking their own selves in the ass. Scrivener7 Yesterday #51

The OP Left Out This Part.. WHY? Cha 21 hrs ago #61

Yeah, I was looking for the "softening" but I couldn't find much. Sounds like they all want masks off. travelingthrulife 13 hrs ago #69

They'll claim its a 'special circumstance' every time. sboatcar 10 hrs ago #79

Yeah, again, we know the plot here. mr715 10 hrs ago #80

I don't think equivocating sends the right message. Do the republicans ever equivocate like that? Crunchy Frog 9 hrs ago #90

Scream bloody murder, "No, you're wrong!" Biophilic Yesterday #2

There is no need for this military style look. pwb Yesterday #3

Sure, but these guys are signing up so they can finally use all the "Tactical" costumes AZJonnie 20 hrs ago #62

You think they need jocks mr715 10 hrs ago #82

About right...start negotiations at the bare minimum Bettie Yesterday #4

Our leaders like their little club. mr715 Yesterday #16

No it's not! You're wrong! MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #5

I don't think they are. Did you read this part, Beagles.. Cha Yesterday #39

I must've missed it MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #44

Yes. The leaders said it, and the two of them had to politely walk it back. Why did they say it in the first place? Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #81

Which makes one wonder... mr715 10 hrs ago #84

Leadership's position Cirsium 10 hrs ago #85

Shameful and unacceptable Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #7

The masks were a big ask. They are tempering it down. underpants Yesterday #8

If agents of the executive authority are unwilling to show their face mr715 Yesterday #10

Did you read this part?.. Details... Cha Yesterday #38

I saw that "80%" post, but gave it zero credibility. sl8 Yesterday #43

Isn't that the goal here ? kacekwl 22 hrs ago #59

No shit. Iggo 9 hrs ago #91

"...no masks, except in extraordinary and unusual circumstances." flvegan Yesterday #9

It wasn't an unreasonable ask. mr715 Yesterday #11

Agreed 👍 MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #21

Just gross capitulation NewHendoLib Yesterday #12

Disgusting and unacceptable. mr715 Yesterday #13

Dem Leadership is montanacowboy Yesterday #14

I want everyone to understand that Dems have 100% leverage right now on DHS Prairie Gates Yesterday #15

It isn't "not a good start". It is a betrayal. mr715 Yesterday #17

WTF????? bluestarone Yesterday #18

If ICE is indeed to be defined as "law enforcement", then they need to act like all other law enforcement. hamsterjill Yesterday #19

Agree 100%. mr715 Yesterday #20

ICE wears whatever they buy themselves Bettie Yesterday #25

You are exactly right! hamsterjill Yesterday #41

Principles, Morals, even common human decency is negotiable under Trump and Ping Tung Yesterday #22

Are they though? mr715 Yesterday #23

Quick, everyone react to the headline and don't bother reading the details! FascismIsDeath Yesterday #24

You don't think it is problematic mr715 Yesterday #26

I think we should be honest, open and spell out exactly what we want from the get go, with as many details as possible. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #27

I can only speak for myself. mr715 Yesterday #30

There are times when we all need to cover our face for some reason. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #36

They're murdering people in the streets. And now, thanks to our own leaders shooting us Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #66

You're one of those "watched too many movies" people I was talking about FascismIsDeath 13 hrs ago #67

No. I'm one of those people who has actually conducted negotiations and who understands the Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #71

Labor leader? mr715 11 hrs ago #73

No. I've had two careers. In the first I was with a company that was doing a lot of acquisitions Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #76

Well despite all that, you obviously didn't learn about pre-emptive argumentation or proactive objection handling. FascismIsDeath 1 hr ago #95

My honored friend, Scrivener, is a clear and original thinker. mr715 10 hrs ago #77

I am going to continue to dismiss it because of the concepts I mentioned to that person, that they are ignoring. FascismIsDeath 1 hr ago #96

Because sometimes exceptions apply. Jedi Guy 23 hrs ago #56

And why are we putting DeLauro and Murphy in a position that they have to Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #65

Distributive blame. mr715 10 hrs ago #75

It would depend on the exceptions EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #37

If the end result is, "follow the same protocols as regular ass police officers tend to do", its a huge difference. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #49

That's certainly one possibility. EdmondDantes_ 13 hrs ago #68

Theres nothing congress can do about that other than impeach people. FascismIsDeath 13 hrs ago #70

They can cut funding. mr715 11 hrs ago #74

If you actually read what I was responding to: FascismIsDeath 1 hr ago #94

Negotiations haven't even started and they're backing down. If, after they sit at the table Scrivener7 Yesterday #52

Or we could just abolish ICE and then we don't have to worry about masks WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #28

We will be a better Country when we have Democrats controlling the WH and Congress. OAITW r.2.0 Yesterday #29

Also mr715 Yesterday #33

The devil is in the details, without which this should be a NO. Raven123 Yesterday #31

Only fund unmasked agents bucolic_frolic Yesterday #32

No guns/weapons if you need a mask. mr715 Yesterday #34

I Hope Everyone is Contacting Them Cha Yesterday #35

We are not cartels, drug lords or the sort. We're everyday citizens, children being terrorized. Deuxcents Yesterday #50

Nooooo! There is no reason for masked law enforcement other than to avoid accountability! surfered Yesterday #40

Not this shit again Blue Owl Yesterday #42

He's technically right, but, I'm not sure the 0.01% of situations that require a mask are worth mentioning. Oneironaut Yesterday #45

Milquetoasts will always waffle over tiny details as fascists steamroll ahead Mysterian Yesterday #46

I don't see republicans making any concessions before negotiations begin about ICE not murdering Americans. Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #53

No! They are *NOT* OK under any circumstances! Initech Yesterday #47

ICE's goal is to terrorize. Wearing masks helps accomplish this. IcyPeas Yesterday #48

What is WRONG with our party leadership? EnergizedLib 23 hrs ago #54

Consultants and entitlement mr715 23 hrs ago #55

Fuck that noise . . . hatrack 23 hrs ago #57

I don't think people appreciate how bad modern tech is gulliver 22 hrs ago #58

A street gang is your worry? aocommunalpunch 16 hrs ago #63

So you think they SHOULD be masked? That's what you're saying? And you're saying that, with a budget Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #64

Guess what? This could happen to any of us. pinkstarburst 8 hrs ago #93

Nope. And disarm them. Hassler 21 hrs ago #60

Ho sweet of them. Autumn 12 hrs ago #72

What the actual fuck? yankee87 10 hrs ago #78

No. Iggo 10 hrs ago #83

When is it ever okay? C_U_L8R 10 hrs ago #86

NEVER! Jilly_in_VA 10 hrs ago #87

Every time I hear about Dems caving CanonRay 9 hrs ago #88

I ain't gonna click alert. mr715 9 hrs ago #89

We need new leadership pinkstarburst 8 hrs ago #92