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50. We are not cartels, drug lords or the sort. We're everyday citizens, children being terrorized.

Wed Feb 4, 2026, 09:47 PM

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If these agents are gonna be undercover or engaging in drug trafficking and need identity hidden, then a mask is part of the uniform. I get the importance of special protection but these demands are results of what’s going on in our neighborhoods and we have no evidence that this mission has produced dangerous cartels

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Masked ICE agents might be okay, says Dem leadership [View all] mr715 Wednesday OP

Anytime I see Dems soften their demands I kacekwl Wednesday #1

Sadly, neither am I ...incredibly disappointed but not Phoenix61 Wednesday #6

And this is before any negotiations. They're just smacking their own selves in the ass. Scrivener7 Wednesday #51

The OP Left Out This Part.. WHY? Cha Yesterday #61

Yeah, I was looking for the "softening" but I couldn't find much. Sounds like they all want masks off. travelingthrulife Yesterday #69

They'll claim its a 'special circumstance' every time. sboatcar 22 hrs ago #79

Yeah, again, we know the plot here. mr715 22 hrs ago #80

I don't think equivocating sends the right message. Do the republicans ever equivocate like that? Crunchy Frog 21 hrs ago #90

Scream bloody murder, "No, you're wrong!" Biophilic Wednesday #2

There is no need for this military style look. pwb Wednesday #3

Sure, but these guys are signing up so they can finally use all the "Tactical" costumes AZJonnie Yesterday #62

You think they need jocks mr715 22 hrs ago #82

About right...start negotiations at the bare minimum Bettie Wednesday #4

Our leaders like their little club. mr715 Wednesday #16

No it's not! You're wrong! MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #5

I don't think they are. Did you read this part, Beagles.. Cha Wednesday #39

I must've missed it MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #44

Yes. The leaders said it, and the two of them had to politely walk it back. Why did they say it in the first place? Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #81

Which makes one wonder... mr715 22 hrs ago #84

Leadership's position Cirsium 22 hrs ago #85

Shameful and unacceptable Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #7

The masks were a big ask. They are tempering it down. underpants Wednesday #8

If agents of the executive authority are unwilling to show their face mr715 Wednesday #10

Did you read this part?.. Details... Cha Wednesday #38

I saw that "80%" post, but gave it zero credibility. sl8 Wednesday #43

Isn't that the goal here ? kacekwl Wednesday #59

No shit. Iggo 21 hrs ago #91

"...no masks, except in extraordinary and unusual circumstances." flvegan Wednesday #9

It wasn't an unreasonable ask. mr715 Wednesday #11

Agreed 👍 MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #21

Just gross capitulation NewHendoLib Wednesday #12

Disgusting and unacceptable. mr715 Wednesday #13

Dem Leadership is montanacowboy Wednesday #14

I want everyone to understand that Dems have 100% leverage right now on DHS Prairie Gates Wednesday #15

It isn't "not a good start". It is a betrayal. mr715 Wednesday #17

WTF????? bluestarone Wednesday #18

If ICE is indeed to be defined as "law enforcement", then they need to act like all other law enforcement. hamsterjill Wednesday #19

Agree 100%. mr715 Wednesday #20

ICE wears whatever they buy themselves Bettie Wednesday #25

You are exactly right! hamsterjill Wednesday #41

Principles, Morals, even common human decency is negotiable under Trump and Ping Tung Wednesday #22

Are they though? mr715 Wednesday #23

Quick, everyone react to the headline and don't bother reading the details! FascismIsDeath Wednesday #24

You don't think it is problematic mr715 Wednesday #26

I think we should be honest, open and spell out exactly what we want from the get go, with as many details as possible. FascismIsDeath Wednesday #27

I can only speak for myself. mr715 Wednesday #30

There are times when we all need to cover our face for some reason. FascismIsDeath Wednesday #36

They're murdering people in the streets. And now, thanks to our own leaders shooting us Scrivener7 Yesterday #66

You're one of those "watched too many movies" people I was talking about FascismIsDeath Yesterday #67

No. I'm one of those people who has actually conducted negotiations and who understands the Scrivener7 Yesterday #71

Labor leader? mr715 23 hrs ago #73

No. I've had two careers. In the first I was with a company that was doing a lot of acquisitions Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #76

Well despite all that, you obviously didn't learn about pre-emptive argumentation or proactive objection handling. FascismIsDeath 13 hrs ago #95

My honored friend, Scrivener, is a clear and original thinker. mr715 22 hrs ago #77

I am going to continue to dismiss it because of the concepts I mentioned to that person, that they are ignoring. FascismIsDeath 13 hrs ago #96

Because sometimes exceptions apply. Jedi Guy Wednesday #56

And why are we putting DeLauro and Murphy in a position that they have to Scrivener7 Yesterday #65

Distributive blame. mr715 22 hrs ago #75

It would depend on the exceptions EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #37

If the end result is, "follow the same protocols as regular ass police officers tend to do", its a huge difference. FascismIsDeath Wednesday #49

That's certainly one possibility. EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #68

Theres nothing congress can do about that other than impeach people. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #70

They can cut funding. mr715 23 hrs ago #74

If you actually read what I was responding to: FascismIsDeath 13 hrs ago #94

Negotiations haven't even started and they're backing down. If, after they sit at the table Scrivener7 Wednesday #52

Or we could just abolish ICE and then we don't have to worry about masks WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #28

We will be a better Country when we have Democrats controlling the WH and Congress. OAITW r.2.0 Wednesday #29

Also mr715 Wednesday #33

The devil is in the details, without which this should be a NO. Raven123 Wednesday #31

Only fund unmasked agents bucolic_frolic Wednesday #32

No guns/weapons if you need a mask. mr715 Wednesday #34

I Hope Everyone is Contacting Them Cha Wednesday #35

We are not cartels, drug lords or the sort. We're everyday citizens, children being terrorized. Deuxcents Wednesday #50

Nooooo! There is no reason for masked law enforcement other than to avoid accountability! surfered Wednesday #40

Not this shit again Blue Owl Wednesday #42

He's technically right, but, I'm not sure the 0.01% of situations that require a mask are worth mentioning. Oneironaut Wednesday #45

Milquetoasts will always waffle over tiny details as fascists steamroll ahead Mysterian Wednesday #46

I don't see republicans making any concessions before negotiations begin about ICE not murdering Americans. Scrivener7 Wednesday #53

No! They are *NOT* OK under any circumstances! Initech Wednesday #47

ICE's goal is to terrorize. Wearing masks helps accomplish this. IcyPeas Wednesday #48

What is WRONG with our party leadership? EnergizedLib Wednesday #54

Consultants and entitlement mr715 Wednesday #55

Fuck that noise . . . hatrack Wednesday #57

I don't think people appreciate how bad modern tech is gulliver Wednesday #58

A street gang is your worry? aocommunalpunch Yesterday #63

So you think they SHOULD be masked? That's what you're saying? And you're saying that, with a budget Scrivener7 Yesterday #64

Guess what? This could happen to any of us. pinkstarburst 20 hrs ago #93

Nope. And disarm them. Hassler Yesterday #60

Ho sweet of them. Autumn Yesterday #72

What the actual fuck? yankee87 22 hrs ago #78

No. Iggo 22 hrs ago #83

When is it ever okay? C_U_L8R 22 hrs ago #86

NEVER! Jilly_in_VA 22 hrs ago #87

Every time I hear about Dems caving CanonRay 21 hrs ago #88

I ain't gonna click alert. mr715 21 hrs ago #89

We need new leadership pinkstarburst 20 hrs ago #92

'Republican leaders' should start wearing masks THEMSELVES---- Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #97