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OAITW r.2.0

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29. We will be a better Country when we have Democrats controlling the WH and Congress.

Reply to mr715 (Original post)

Wed Feb 4, 2026, 08:25 PM

17 hrs ago

1st order of business,
Dismantle ICE/DHS.

Then.
* Invest in DOJ/IRS
* Laws to mitigate future Presidential power.

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Masked ICE agents might be okay, says Dem leadership [View all] mr715 18 hrs ago OP

Anytime I see Dems soften their demands I kacekwl 18 hrs ago #1

Sadly, neither am I ...incredibly disappointed but not Phoenix61 18 hrs ago #6

And this is before any negotiations. They're just smacking their own selves in the ass. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #51

The OP Left Out This Part.. WHY? Cha 13 hrs ago #61

Yeah, I was looking for the "softening" but I couldn't find much. Sounds like they all want masks off. travelingthrulife 5 hrs ago #69

They'll claim its a 'special circumstance' every time. sboatcar 2 hrs ago #79

Yeah, again, we know the plot here. mr715 2 hrs ago #80

I don't think equivocating sends the right message. Do the republicans ever equivocate like that? Crunchy Frog 1 hr ago #90

Scream bloody murder, "No, you're wrong!" Biophilic 18 hrs ago #2

There is no need for this military style look. pwb 18 hrs ago #3

Sure, but these guys are signing up so they can finally use all the "Tactical" costumes AZJonnie 12 hrs ago #62

You think they need jocks mr715 2 hrs ago #82

About right...start negotiations at the bare minimum Bettie 18 hrs ago #4

Our leaders like their little club. mr715 18 hrs ago #16

No it's not! You're wrong! MustLoveBeagles 18 hrs ago #5

I don't think they are. Did you read this part, Beagles.. Cha 17 hrs ago #39

I must've missed it MustLoveBeagles 16 hrs ago #44

Yes. The leaders said it, and the two of them had to politely walk it back. Why did they say it in the first place? Scrivener7 2 hrs ago #81

Which makes one wonder... mr715 1 hr ago #84

Leadership's position Cirsium 1 hr ago #85

Shameful and unacceptable Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #7

The masks were a big ask. They are tempering it down. underpants 18 hrs ago #8

If agents of the executive authority are unwilling to show their face mr715 18 hrs ago #10

Did you read this part?.. Details... Cha 17 hrs ago #38

I saw that "80%" post, but gave it zero credibility. sl8 17 hrs ago #43

Isn't that the goal here ? kacekwl 14 hrs ago #59

No shit. Iggo 28 min ago #91

"...no masks, except in extraordinary and unusual circumstances." flvegan 18 hrs ago #9

It wasn't an unreasonable ask. mr715 18 hrs ago #11

Agreed 👍 MustLoveBeagles 17 hrs ago #21

Just gross capitulation NewHendoLib 18 hrs ago #12

Disgusting and unacceptable. mr715 18 hrs ago #13

Dem Leadership is montanacowboy 18 hrs ago #14

I want everyone to understand that Dems have 100% leverage right now on DHS Prairie Gates 18 hrs ago #15

It isn't "not a good start". It is a betrayal. mr715 18 hrs ago #17

WTF????? bluestarone 18 hrs ago #18

If ICE is indeed to be defined as "law enforcement", then they need to act like all other law enforcement. hamsterjill 18 hrs ago #19

Agree 100%. mr715 18 hrs ago #20

ICE wears whatever they buy themselves Bettie 17 hrs ago #25

You are exactly right! hamsterjill 17 hrs ago #41

Principles, Morals, even common human decency is negotiable under Trump and Ping Tung 17 hrs ago #22

Are they though? mr715 17 hrs ago #23

Quick, everyone react to the headline and don't bother reading the details! FascismIsDeath 17 hrs ago #24

You don't think it is problematic mr715 17 hrs ago #26

I think we should be honest, open and spell out exactly what we want from the get go, with as many details as possible. FascismIsDeath 17 hrs ago #27

I can only speak for myself. mr715 17 hrs ago #30

There are times when we all need to cover our face for some reason. FascismIsDeath 17 hrs ago #36

They're murdering people in the streets. And now, thanks to our own leaders shooting us Scrivener7 5 hrs ago #66

You're one of those "watched too many movies" people I was talking about FascismIsDeath 5 hrs ago #67

No. I'm one of those people who has actually conducted negotiations and who understands the Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #71

Labor leader? mr715 2 hrs ago #73

No. I've had two careers. In the first I was with a company that was doing a lot of acquisitions Scrivener7 2 hrs ago #76

My honored friend, Scrivener, is a clear and original thinker. mr715 2 hrs ago #77

Because sometimes exceptions apply. Jedi Guy 14 hrs ago #56

And why are we putting DeLauro and Murphy in a position that they have to Scrivener7 5 hrs ago #65

Distributive blame. mr715 2 hrs ago #75

It would depend on the exceptions EdmondDantes_ 17 hrs ago #37

If the end result is, "follow the same protocols as regular ass police officers tend to do", its a huge difference. FascismIsDeath 16 hrs ago #49

That's certainly one possibility. EdmondDantes_ 5 hrs ago #68

Theres nothing congress can do about that other than impeach people. FascismIsDeath 5 hrs ago #70

They can cut funding. mr715 2 hrs ago #74

Negotiations haven't even started and they're backing down. If, after they sit at the table Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #52

Or we could just abolish ICE and then we don't have to worry about masks WhiskeyGrinder 17 hrs ago #28

We will be a better Country when we have Democrats controlling the WH and Congress. OAITW r.2.0 17 hrs ago #29

Also mr715 17 hrs ago #33

The devil is in the details, without which this should be a NO. Raven123 17 hrs ago #31

Only fund unmasked agents bucolic_frolic 17 hrs ago #32

No guns/weapons if you need a mask. mr715 17 hrs ago #34

I Hope Everyone is Contacting Them Cha 17 hrs ago #35

We are not cartels, drug lords or the sort. We're everyday citizens, children being terrorized. Deuxcents 16 hrs ago #50

Nooooo! There is no reason for masked law enforcement other than to avoid accountability! surfered 17 hrs ago #40

Not this shit again Blue Owl 17 hrs ago #42

He's technically right, but, I'm not sure the 0.01% of situations that require a mask are worth mentioning. Oneironaut 16 hrs ago #45

Milquetoasts will always waffle over tiny details as fascists steamroll ahead Mysterian 16 hrs ago #46

I don't see republicans making any concessions before negotiations begin about ICE not murdering Americans. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #53

No! They are *NOT* OK under any circumstances! Initech 16 hrs ago #47

ICE's goal is to terrorize. Wearing masks helps accomplish this. IcyPeas 16 hrs ago #48

What is WRONG with our party leadership? EnergizedLib 14 hrs ago #54

Consultants and entitlement mr715 14 hrs ago #55

Fuck that noise . . . hatrack 14 hrs ago #57

I don't think people appreciate how bad modern tech is gulliver 14 hrs ago #58

A street gang is your worry? aocommunalpunch 7 hrs ago #63

So you think they SHOULD be masked? That's what you're saying? And you're saying that, with a budget Scrivener7 6 hrs ago #64

Guess what? This could happen to any of us. pinkstarburst 14 min ago #93

Nope. And disarm them. Hassler 13 hrs ago #60

Ho sweet of them. Autumn 4 hrs ago #72

What the actual fuck? yankee87 2 hrs ago #78

No. Iggo 1 hr ago #83

When is it ever okay? C_U_L8R 1 hr ago #86

NEVER! Jilly_in_VA 1 hr ago #87

Every time I hear about Dems caving CanonRay 1 hr ago #88

I ain't gonna click alert. mr715 1 hr ago #89

We need new leadership pinkstarburst 20 min ago #92