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mr715

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32. I truly don't understand

Fri Dec 19, 2025, 02:57 PM

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Why we should care about "hurtful" attacks or "forgiveness". Number one, we don't know if these are truly felt emotions or if they are performative. Consequently, they should not enter political calculus. I.E. I don't care if Joe Biden was crying every night over his perceived betrayal. His job is to serve us, so he should (excuse me) man up and get over it.

Incidentally, I am not so sure that appointment to VP demonstrates forgiveness as it is a political graveyard. If you recall, the early days of the Biden administration, Kamala Harris was the preferred bulwark against any attacks re: immigration. He didn't exactly set her up in a strong position.

Compare, for example, former President Obama who gave then Senator Clinton the docket at State - the most prestigious and independent of the cabinet agencies.

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Kamala being interviewed by Jimmy Kimmel tonight is enlightening but also frustrating [View all] live love laugh Thursday OP

Might have been better for Harris to wait awhile, but I can see her being "ungrateful." It was just a bad situation Silent Type Thursday #1

Biden's feelings ??? Intractable Thursday #2

Well, I knew Biden's one-term promise wouldn't hold misanthrope Thursday #4

He never made a one-term promise. W_HAMILTON Thursday #15

You're right misanthrope Yesterday #22

Well, he got his wish. mr715 Yesterday #24

And, unfortunately, we now got the government we deserve. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #25

Yes, that's how I remember it PatSeg Yesterday #27

Why? mr715 Yesterday #28

Sorry you feel that way PatSeg Yesterday #31

And I appreciate both your perspective mr715 Yesterday #33

Thank you PatSeg Yesterday #36

"Should've" ... Monday morning QBs always win. live love laugh Yesterday #48

and boy - did we get plenty of "howa' shoulda' been done" in that dose. stopdiggin 19 hrs ago #52

You're real late with this response. Too late to be a QB for anything. Intractable 18 hrs ago #56

lol ... being latER and wrong is worse. live love laugh 11 hrs ago #60

I'm going to put you on my ignore list. Intractable 11 hrs ago #61

He definitely alluded in the 2020 campaign to being a transitional POTUS. beaglelover Yesterday #41

Biden never promised to be a one-term president Mysterian Thursday #19

It is my inference of the word "transitional." misanthrope Yesterday #21

It sure is dishonest adjacent. nt mr715 Yesterday #26

For about the fiftieth time, Biden NEVER 'promised' to be a one-term president! Jack Valentino Yesterday #50

Thank you. He got in there in the first Solomon Thursday #6

He never once said that ITAL Thursday #16

And if he were truly honest about serving 2 terms, mr715 Yesterday #23

I beg to differ misanthrope Yesterday #34

I meant the primary mr715 Yesterday #37

good post Skittles Thursday #7

Ironically, in 2000, both Biden and Harris were near the bottom for me. Intractable Thursday #9

you don't need THE most delicate body part for courage Skittles Thursday #10

During the campaign, I thought it was flawless. mr715 Thursday #14

He was good until he wasn't. mr715 Thursday #13

Biden's goal was to fight fascism? This is more revisionist than factual. live love laugh 19 hrs ago #53

"Fight for the soul of the nation" mr715 8 hrs ago #63

Once again your revisionist disinformation is not provable, live love laugh 8 hrs ago #78

Revisionist disinformation is rarely provable. mr715 7 hrs ago #88

Stop posting lies or adding to them. live love laugh 6 hrs ago #89

Not posting lies nor adding to them. mr715 6 hrs ago #90

Your perspective is lies. live love laugh 5 hrs ago #91

Don't you think that any good president should have that goal, if faced with the threat of a Trump-like creature? Doodley 8 hrs ago #77

The OP claims failure because BIDEN didn't stop fascism. Neither did his predecessors. live love laugh 8 hrs ago #80

Yes - all the way back to Jefferson, Hamilton, and Washington. mr715 7 hrs ago #83

Biden was the president who lost to a fascist, a fascist who is destroying the America we knew. Doodley 7 hrs ago #84

And facilitated his ascent mr715 7 hrs ago #86

More revisionistic drivel and lies ... live love laugh 5 hrs ago #93

To put a finer point on it, mr715 7 hrs ago #85

Typically VP candidates are not primary contenders MichMan Thursday #11

And by stating in advance, that "he would only select a Black woman as VP," he reduced her to it. Intractable Thursday #18

Huh? When did Biden ever say he would ONLY pick a black female VP? live love laugh 19 hrs ago #54

Are you serious here? Intractable 18 hrs ago #55

Bullshit link. Take your revisionist disinformation elsewhere. live love laugh 8 hrs ago #66

Woman VP, Black woman Justice. mr715 8 hrs ago #68

He did not PLEDGE to pick a BLACK WOMAN VP. live love laugh 8 hrs ago #71

He did "vow" to have a woman nt mr715 8 hrs ago #72

The lie is BLACK woman. Don't back out now .... live love laugh 8 hrs ago #74

You are apparently correct / I was wrong mr715 8 hrs ago #76

Your original point is still relevant. It was used against Kamala by MAGA, with Trump calling her a "DEI hire." Doodley 8 hrs ago #79

I'm fairly sure I remember a debate mr715 7 hrs ago #87

Another load of drivel... live love laugh 5 hrs ago #92

It happened when he did it. nt mr715 8 hrs ago #65

IOW you've got nothing .... live love laugh 8 hrs ago #67

You are under no obligation mr715 8 hrs ago #70

But you backed the allegation that he did pledge to pick a black female VP. live love laugh 8 hrs ago #73

I was wrong about the race part. mr715 8 hrs ago #75

I was so burned when she did that during a primary debate PatSeg Yesterday #29

I truly don't understand mr715 Yesterday #32

When Obama picked Biden as VP, you believe it was a political graveyard appointment? MichMan Yesterday #38

Yes. mr715 Yesterday #40

Sometimes two people can have different views of the same thing EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #42

The instance I'm referring to wasn't quite like that PatSeg Yesterday #44

And this is why I am no fan of Kamala. madibella 14 hrs ago #58

Seriously? live love laugh 8 hrs ago #69

He completely screwed us in respect to the 2024 election. Love this line in your post: beaglelover Yesterday #39

I now sometimes think Biden's victory in 2020 was a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it" Midwestern Democrat 10 hrs ago #62

Kamala was misplaced as VP. Her background is that of a litigator. She should have been U.S. Attorney General... PeaceWave Thursday #3

Closest was Franklin Pierce or William H. Taft ITAL Thursday #17

Trump's "skill set" qualifies him? live love laugh Thursday #20

the statement concerning the 'hands off stance' is just fundamentally factual stopdiggin Thursday #5

Every good administration has kept that "purity stance". nilram Yesterday #35

and - while I desperately fear that it may not be possible to put the genie back stopdiggin 19 hrs ago #51

Harris is correct: Justice dept. should be independent, no political or personal influence. betsuni Thursday #8

I'm sorry but mr715 Thursday #12

I care about his feelings PatSeg Yesterday #30

Don't worry. Biden will be okay. He's much better off than the most of us under Trump. Intractable 18 hrs ago #57

And that is the sort of thing PatSeg 11 hrs ago #59

Empathy can be performative mr715 8 hrs ago #64

You are right. The feelings of millions who lose their healthcare because of Trump, lose benefits to feed their Doodley 7 hrs ago #81

Agree 100 percent with your comments karynnj Yesterday #43

Klobuchar as VP in 2020 or as the presidential candidate in 2024? MichMan Yesterday #45

You are right. I thought the promise was a woman. karynnj Yesterday #47

Biden and Harris are adults and friends. JI7 Yesterday #46

Place blame where it belongs - the voters who didn't vote for her lostnfound Yesterday #49

Beautiful said. Sadly true. Doodley 7 hrs ago #82