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LuckyCharms

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Wed Dec 17, 2025, 07:58 AM Dec 17

The deaths of Rob and Michele Reiner seem to be hitting me unusually hard. [View all]

When I think of Rob Reiner, I think of his role as Michael Stivic, rather than as an incredible movie director/producer. I certainly recognize and appreciate his incredible accomplishments in the film industry, but my first and most endearing thoughts of Mr. Reiner relate to his role of Michael Stivic.

Like many people my age, I was glued to the television every week to watch All in the Family. I loved that show. Even at that young age, I recognized the show for what it was...a satirical look at the polar opposite mindsets of a lovable but bigoted man (Archie Bunker), and his progressive, peace loving, anti-war son-in-law, Michael Stivic.

Reiner's character in All in the Family was not one of a full-fledged "hippie", but he had a hippie mind set of sorts. A progressive mindset. He played a big, loping intellectual of a man. A smart and caring man. A man who thought about things.

His character reminded me of several male figures in my young life. Smart men who taught me things.

We rented a room to a teacher named Wayne, who spent a lot of his valuable time tutoring me in school subjects that I was having difficulty with. He would spend hours with me every night. He received no payment for tutoring me, he did it because he loved to teach. He was a cool dude. He was very progressive, like Michael Stivic, and his mannerisms and way of talking were uncannily similar to Reiner's Stivic character.

My friend's older brothers also had friends that reminded me of Reiner's character. Big, strong men with gentle souls. Men who would take me under their wings, and talk to me about things that would challenge my yet undeveloped young mind...politics, astronomy, etc.

So I could relate to Michael Stivic with fondness. And Reiner played his character so well, that Rob Reiner WAS INDEED Micheal Stivic to me. He influenced my thought processes, and he made me smile. And as it happened, Rob Reiner the man, evolved into a person who held intelligent and progressive views. A wonderful human being.

Like many of us. Mr. and Mrs. Reiner fell victim to the harsh realities of the world. It happens to the rich and famous, as it happens to the rest of us. It's inescapable, no matter your position in society. Perhaps they were victims of a system that couldn't help their son Nick. A system that isn't set up to help people with human problems. Those with mental health issues. Those with addiction issues.

The deaths of the Reiners, along with the Brown and Bondi shootings, made for a sad and reflective few days.

Life could be so much better, if we had a "better" society, a society that puts the human being first. A society with an emphasis on safety nets.

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I tossed and turned about the murder last night for a while. Irish_Dem Dec 17 #1
I've been reflecting on that as well. LuckyCharms Dec 17 #2
I am a retired mental health professional and have seen a great deal during the 40 years I was working. Irish_Dem Dec 17 #4
I agree, but I think their assumed denial would be the natural reaction of a parent... LuckyCharms Dec 17 #5
Yes they were in some denial. Irish_Dem Dec 17 #21
What Malcolm Nance said on the mucifer Dec 17 #36
I was afraid of that. Irish_Dem Dec 17 #37
I agree ... OldBoss Dec 17 #13
Yes very sad situations. Irish_Dem Dec 17 #22
The US mental health care system has never been in good health. erronis Dec 17 #31
I agree. Irish_Dem Dec 17 #34
My sister was like this when... róisín_dubh Dec 17 #35
Illegal drugs are so heinous in this day, they could make anyone snap at any time. Clouds Passing Dec 17 #11
I imagine there's a degree of embarassment involved too dickthegrouch Dec 17 #27
I feel the same way. no_hypocrisy Dec 17 #3
I know what you mean PCIntern Dec 17 #6
Yes, and he was vulnerable, like the rest of us. LuckyCharms Dec 17 #7
I am comforted by the Reiners' final, enormous gift to this nation. Paladin Dec 17 #8
Bad things can happen to good people GreatGazoo Dec 17 #9
Kudos to you for this post. cer7711 Dec 17 #10
It is hitting me hard, too. yardwork Dec 17 #12
Yes, well said. Thank you. mountain grammy Dec 17 #15
Hey fellow Joneser! LittleGirl Dec 17 #17
Same here, only I was in bright red Heart of Ohio. yardwork Dec 17 #24
Me too, LuckyCharms. It was like a part of our youth was taken away. debm55 Dec 17 #14
As far back as high school I was saying we are no longer a society. We are an economy and military. twodogsbarking Dec 17 #16
We fought the law and the law won. yardwork Dec 17 #25
As hard as it hit all of us, I worry about how it hit a man who knew his dad well, and possibly knew Rob Reiner as a kid Attilatheblond Dec 17 #18
Had a thought about this that provided some consolation ... Jarqui Dec 17 #19
Thank you - beautiful post. erronis Dec 17 #32
My friends & I were 60's protesters... bluboid Dec 17 #20
I'm so sad over the murders and heartbroken over Romy who will live forever with the vision of her dead parents. TommieMommy Dec 17 #23
Having a child who is dangerous is devastating dlk Dec 17 #26
Dearest Lucky Niagara Dec 17 #28
. LuckyCharms Dec 17 #29
It was so shocking wendyb-NC Dec 17 #30
A lovely tribute to Rob and to Michael (Meathead). Thank you. erronis Dec 17 #33
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