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fujiyamasan

(1,091 posts)
10. The valuations don't make much sense
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 03:28 PM
Yesterday

I’ll give you that, but the old quote about solvency and rationality still apply here. We don’t know if these pullbacks are part of a more bearish outlook or just jitters. If rate cuts keep happening, the party may continue (may be an even nastier hangover).

Some companies will survive and likely thrive well into the future. I also wouldn’t conflate AI with crypto. I’m guessing we’ll see nvidia and Alphabet in 5-10 years. These are companies that whether or not people here like them or their products or practices, produce some value (in the eyes of shareholders) and sell actual goods and services. AI itself will continue to move forward in some way or the other. LLMs will evolve. The companies may change, but that’s capitalism. Crypto “treasuries”? I wouldn’t bet on it. They produce absolutely nothing of value.

People should invest according to their own risk tolerance.

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I work for a Multinational Corp. TBA Yesterday #1
Just like the dot com bubble Dave says Yesterday #6
The problem is not with the product. The problem is the way the FINANCING of the product is structured. 3Hotdogs 23 hrs ago #22
It's not the same gulliver 14 hrs ago #47
They also make hardware in addition to software Sympthsical 3 hrs ago #58
Lots of companies are integrating AI angrychair 20 hrs ago #40
This has been my firsthand experience as well. W_HAMILTON 19 hrs ago #44
My nursing school uses AI to teach Sympthsical 2 hrs ago #59
I also am old enough to remember the first time i saw the internet... W_HAMILTON 19 hrs ago #43
IBM and McDs couldn't make an AI menu system work consistently, I doubt others success uponit7771 3 hrs ago #54
I entirely agree dickthegrouch Yesterday #2
these doom and gloom financial predictions rollin74 Yesterday #3
Everyone here thinks they're Michael Burry fujiyamasan 23 hrs ago #13
... cause this time circular financing without organic income is different this time? uponit7771 2 hrs ago #61
AI, grok, crypto..................... Lovie777 Yesterday #4
While I understand your point, I believe AI is more in the over-promised stage similar to right before the Dot.com artemisia1 Yesterday #5
I agree Dave says Yesterday #7
Partially right, IMO Happy Hoosier Yesterday #8
21st century needs require 21st century tools.... anciano Yesterday #9
Most of the junk you see isn't good quality ai jfz9580m 14 hrs ago #46
The valuations don't make much sense fujiyamasan Yesterday #10
I'm more inclined to listen to my trained financial advisors. Gore1FL Yesterday #11
The zillow dollar question is not if, CanonRay Yesterday #12
AI has been around for a long time. LeftInTX 23 hrs ago #14
No. They are not interchangeable terms. Celerity 23 hrs ago #15
But it's used in common speech nowadays LeftInTX 23 hrs ago #20
It seems if many non-AI things are now being re-branded as AI Deminpenn 11 hrs ago #50
Same advice I always give: don't make financial decisions based on buy or sell advice from a DU poster. onenote 23 hrs ago #16
Yes, I've been here for decades fujiyamasan 22 hrs ago #29
If I took investing advice here, I would have sold everything years ago and hid it in a mattress somewhere MichMan 7 hrs ago #52
I completely agree about your assessment of Crypto currency Buddyzbuddy 23 hrs ago #17
Like it or not, AI has a solid function in business Mr.WeRP 23 hrs ago #18
Who has money to invest? ThreeNoSeep 23 hrs ago #19
Well, A.I. has destroyed my profession entirely already. OldBaldy1701E 23 hrs ago #21
I'll have you know that I've invested heavily in crypto Orrex 22 hrs ago #23
LOL! MineralMan 22 hrs ago #25
Yeah, but with hotels!!?!?! dutch777 22 hrs ago #31
Whoa--easy there, moneybags! Orrex 21 hrs ago #38
The problem here isn't whether AI (I hate that name, its so false) will exist into the future, it will Cheezoholic 22 hrs ago #24
There is chatter about how the " large language model" isn't the right one Klarkashton 22 hrs ago #26
Not Quite Metaphorical 21 hrs ago #37
Correct, too much hallucinating uponit7771 3 hrs ago #55
You're right. I'm going straight into scratch lottery tickets underpants 22 hrs ago #27
I didn't buy Micron at 12 cents in 1984 bucolic_frolic 22 hrs ago #28
Yep, people coming out of Forest Gump likely thought they "missed the boat" with Apple in 1994 fujiyamasan 22 hrs ago #30
We started getting into Nvidia about three years ago Sympthsical 2 hrs ago #63
Good call on nvdia fujiyamasan 2 hrs ago #64
Yeah, we've been conservative Sympthsical 1 hr ago #65
I think for some of us in our forties we became particularly risk averse after the Great Recession fujiyamasan 1 hr ago #66
Exact same here Sympthsical 1 hr ago #67
The fake-looking generated art and chatbots are but a sliver of what AI is and can do TheProle 22 hrs ago #32
I've been saying this on Linked In Metaphorical 22 hrs ago #33
The big money return in crypto is::: Norrrm 21 hrs ago #34
AI works for some things Diraven 21 hrs ago #35
"It is not really intelligent and has no ability to truly create anything." dedl67 21 hrs ago #36
Agree.... anciano 21 hrs ago #39
doubtful. WarGamer 20 hrs ago #41
Yes, Gemini 3 is impressive and much faster than before fujiyamasan 19 hrs ago #42
This is from Gemini itself uponit7771 2 hrs ago #60
It's fucking boring and it makes the people who use it fucking boring. hunter 15 hrs ago #45
AI is changing the world for the better gulliver 14 hrs ago #48
Remember how computers were going to reduce the amount of paperwork we suffered... hunter 7 hrs ago #51
Now do hallucination rate uponit7771 3 hrs ago #56
I think that's a bit starry-eyed Happy Hoosier 2 hrs ago #62
Sell Ford and buy Jeremiah Buggy stock.....1912 Melon 14 hrs ago #49
Right now Fords engine doesn't work like they said it does, of course sell Ford uponit7771 3 hrs ago #57
Cryptocurrency is literally hot air. Qutzupalotl 3 hrs ago #53
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