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jfz9580m

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37. I still have her books - I read them as a teen
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 12:22 AM
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They appeal to a lot of teens which was when I first read them. They had a certain novelty for me as some one raised in a more leftish political environment.

Even then I noticed the part where the leads (Dagny and Hank) were driving though a wilderness and she says “People talk about unspoiled wilderness with no billboards. Well here it is for them. I hate people like that.”

As a military brat without any really cohesive political philosophy at 15 or 16 who was still always a fan of unspoiled wilderness, that made me reconsider enthusiasm for a book that if nothing else seemed calculated to annoy my grand-dad, a significant (and very annoying ) influence in my life. He huffed that “this woman is in the pay of American business-men and their dog eat dog worldview”. He was right I realized when I was around 21 and confronted with the daily realities of American capitalism.

As TurbineGuy notes above, her worldview was very warped by her experiences in the Soviet Bloc. I also agree with DUer snot upthread. It’s a useful exercise to interrogate worldviews alien to one.

It’s one of the negative aspects of the present time that people feel mere exposure to the opposite side can somehow contaminate one.

For me lately it’s grounded in the dawning realization that possibly these damn AI infested things are distributed or embedded in ways one wasn’t expecting and below the threshold of conscious awareness. I am still not sure of where it is just broken human behavior versus broken human behavior worsened by junk tech.

Those things have no idea what the human host is thinking and may bombard one with stuff one follows out of negative curiosity rather than positive. A shitty initial state may be really hard to recover from. Which is why I am for rebooting the whole damn thing rather than struggling with irreversible brain rot forever to please some shit corporation.

Morrison and Boyd is harder for the enfeebled modern mind to focus on. So if you consume junk while procrastinating, that seems to set you up for being slammed with more junk setting off a vicious cycle. Seems to make every difficulty with education or pursuit of good health worse.

God those books are rubbish though. But still, it is fun to read conservatives. I should read this Public Choice Theory jerk James Buchanan at some point.

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It's okay! We all have something that we fell for, or had pushed at us. Maru Kitteh Sunday #1
In our defense UpInArms Sunday #2
For those either not familiar with Atlas Shrugged, or it's 'been a while', I offer an abridged version. Abolishinist Sunday #3
Oh man! I saw this here once before and regretted not knowing the source. Do you know it? NNadir Sunday #4
I've posted it here before, Abolishinist Sunday #14
You are brilliant. mr715 Sunday #8
I wish I could give the author proper credit, but I copied this Abolishinist Sunday #16
I was confused and disturbed by Atlas Shrugged when I was young. dgauss Sunday #26
It's as I remembered "Atlas Shrugged". Hugin 17 hrs ago #44
So, your Organic Chemistry book... ret5hd Sunday #5
I'm happy to say, that to my knowledge, there is only one Ayn Rand book on these old shelves. NNadir Sunday #7
I have a lot of Ayn Rand... mr715 Sunday #6
That's rich: "Philosophical Biohazard." Mind if I steal it if I ever find myself discussing Ayn Rand again? NNadir Sunday #9
Please share. mr715 Sunday #12
On 'Atlas Shrugged' RetiredParatrooper Sunday #34
Dorothy Parker on 'Atlas Shrugged' RetiredParatrooper Sunday #35
I hope that you got rid of it TexasTowelie Sunday #10
Well, I don't know. Maybe I should keep it around to remind myself that I can be stupid. NNadir Sunday #11
Nah- sometimes burning a book actually can be recommended biophile Sunday #15
Morrison and Boyd's Organic Chemistry was the one I used. harumph Sunday #13
I gave a copy, an earlier edition to a guy who worked for me. I actually have several... NNadir Sunday #19
Nature of the Chemical Bond by Linus Pauling harumph Yesterday #36
I'm starting the annual book shelves cleaning this week malaise Sunday #17
One's political philosophy should result from intellectual inquiry, not blind faith. snot Sunday #18
I rather like your perspective, more generous to me than I am to myself. In fact... NNadir Sunday #23
There still are powerful people who embrace her philosophy. snot 8 hrs ago #46
It sounds like you grew out of it in high school. mjvpi Sunday #20
I too read Ayn Rand's books as a youth and admired them. Morbius Sunday #21
It's as if she took communism Turbineguy Sunday #24
I still have her books - I read them as a teen jfz9580m Yesterday #37
I recall very well being offended by that billboard remark. NNadir 17 hrs ago #41
My take was that the right picked up Rand as a reaction to all of the era of socialist writers that preceded her. Hugin 16 hrs ago #45
Oh, gawd - Morrison and Boyd! The stuff of my nightmares. 3catwoman3 Sunday #22
I think organic chemistry is generally taught badly, probably for historical reasons. NNadir Sunday #28
The 3 things I remember from that long ago course are... 3catwoman3 Sunday #32
Not to butt in jfz9580m 17 hrs ago #43
The story of Kekule's "dream," has inspired a lot of psychological speculations on scientific creativity. NNadir 6 hrs ago #47
Organic chem wherein, my cousin told me EverHopeful Sunday #33
A long-lost ending of 'Atlas Shrugged' RetiredParatrooper Sunday #25
Wow! Someone got to the end without falling asleep. Impressive. (Pretty funny ersatz ending, I think.) NNadir Sunday #31
I have retained a number of stupid things from my stupid youth. One *not* stupid thing that I kept Ocelot II Sunday #27
I feel your pain. I really do. I suspect most of us do. NNadir Sunday #30
i'll admit to a youthful flirtation with ayn rand rampartd Sunday #29
God yeah jfz9580m Yesterday #38
It's Eleanor Roosevelt, who I consider the greatest Democrat of the 20th century. NNadir 17 hrs ago #40
I really should read more about her jfz9580m 17 hrs ago #42
Everyone should have read them when a teen HAB911 18 hrs ago #39
I read both The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged... Chemical Bill 4 hrs ago #48
And I read Morrison and Boyd in college. Chemical Bill 4 hrs ago #49
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