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Wiz Imp

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6. On top of that, if cost relative to value was the real issue, nickels should be discontinued first.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 09:29 PM
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Total cost of making a penny is 3.69 cents
In 2024, the US mint produced 3,225,200,000 pennies which resulted in an annual loss to taxpayers of $85.3 million.

Total cost of making a nickel is 13.78 cents
The 2024 production of nickels was 112,800,000, resulting in an annual loss to taxpayers of $17.7 million.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/10/business/costs-of-pennies-and-nickels

Phasing out the penny could result in needing to make more nickels, and the US Treasury Department loses far more money on every nickel than it does on every penny.

“Without the penny, the volume of nickels in circulation would have to rise to fill the gap in small-value transactions. Far from saving money, eliminating the penny shifts and amplifies the financial burden,” said American for Common Cents, a pro-penny group funded primarily by Artazn, the company that has the contract to provide the blanks used to make pennies.


On the other hand, pennies don't change hands anywhere close to once a day over 30 years.
One reason that the government has to make so many pennies every year is a large percentage of them don’t remain in circulation. They are stashed in penny jars or junk drawers at home. Or they fall on the ground and people don’t even bother to pick them up.

An estimated 66 to 74 percent of the pennies produced by the U.S. Mint vanish from active circulation after reaching consumers, primarily due to hoarding in jars and general loss. While the U.S. Mint's official lifespan for a coin is 30 years, a large majority of pennies are effectively removed from daily commerce much sooner. A 2022 government analysis estimated that about 60% of all circulating pennies are stashed in homes.


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How did he make money killing the penny? Irish_Dem Saturday #1
I stumbled upon a right wing screed recently which for some reason... Hugin Saturday #13
Who gets all the pennies, and how much are they worth? Irish_Dem Sunday #37
Personally, I believe it goes back to a grudge against a dead guy. Hugin Sunday #38
Getting revenge and grifting at the same time. Irish_Dem Sunday #39
Americans are weakest about what... Hugin Sunday #40
The evil geniuses installed the perfect snake oil salesman. Irish_Dem Sunday #42
Except They're Not Rare Earth Metals ProfessorGAC Sunday #49
lincoln freed theslaves very bad person rampartd Saturday #26
Oh geez I had not thought of that. Of course. Irish_Dem Sunday #43
That's a good argument. Should be shared widely. bucolic_frolic Saturday #2
I haven't heard one issue he's tackling make any sense or justification for his decisions..the penny Deuxcents Saturday #3
This is not a new idea, as far back as 2008 Abolishinist Saturday #4
next time you run for president promise to implode the ball room rampartd Saturday #30
Pennies were eliminated in Canada a long time ago. jeffreyi Saturday #5
Other countries think this through and do planned phase-outs rather than just act on impulse. Eugene Saturday #8
During WWII, pennies were made out of steel Deminpenn Saturday #23
There's a whole documentary about it. eggplant Saturday #16
Its inevitable. Not Trumps idea. Just common sense. LiberalLovinLug Saturday #18
On top of that, if cost relative to value was the real issue, nickels should be discontinued first. Wiz Imp Saturday #6
The volume of nickels shouldn't need to increase if the penny is discontinued. eggplant Saturday #17
Most experts disagree with you including the Federal Reserve. Wiz Imp Saturday #28
Locally, Giant Eagle grocery stores offered $1 in gift cards for every 50 penny roll Deminpenn Saturday #27
A mill is one tenth of a penny Bmoboy Saturday #7
Krugman says the penny is no longer relevant. It is obsolete. We should also start minting one-dollar and two-dollar Martin68 Saturday #9
The problem with that is vending machines don't take dollar coins Deminpenn Saturday #29
In Canada our vending machines take $1 and $2 coins. Most adults use their debit or credit cards on the machines. Bev54 Saturday #32
That's nice to know Deminpenn Saturday #34
Exactly. I used to spend every summer in Ontario, and I thought one and two dollar coins were great. Martin68 Sunday #47
Yes most people have their cards on their phones now so just tap the phone. Bev54 Sunday #48
If the penny is dead, BlueSpot Sunday #35
That's like a blacksmith saying "we don't have horseshoes for automobiles. Let's stick with horses." Martin68 Sunday #46
It is an issue when you're dealing with a moron that can only focus on one thought at a time. Trump is really flashman13 Saturday #10
Translation: Bessent plans on embezzling the nation's copper reserves. intheflow Saturday #11
Not really a lot of copper in pennies any more... Wounded Bear Saturday #21
Even so, a quart jar full of pennies is $18.00 yellowdogintexas Sunday #36
Actually, I don't think pennies circulate much at all. patphil Saturday #12
much hue and cry in advocacy - for a token that consumers in large part refuse to use stopdiggin Saturday #15
He wants to destroy everything and anything he can. RockRaven Saturday #14
They've discussed killing the penny forever. Melon Saturday #19
Yeah, they can blame/give credit to trump if they like, but it's been in the works for a while...nt Wounded Bear Saturday #22
That's right, it doesn't make any cents! KelleyKramer Saturday #20
If a penny costs 3.69 cents to make, but a dollar only costs 4.1 cents to make*, then the face value argument... Ol Janx Spirit Saturday #24
Even if so, the thing to do is to make 2-cent coins that look almost like cents (not pennies -- there is no US penny). eppur_se_muova Saturday #25
Getting rid of the penny is a fairly old idea dsc Saturday #31
Seigniorage Deminpenn Saturday #33
1/2 Cent, Two-Cent piece, Three Cent piece, Silver Half-Dimes, Twenty-Cent piece, and Emile Sunday #41
I hate having loose coins. MichMan Sunday #44
In Panama, pennies are necessary PJMcK Sunday #45
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