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ABC123Easy

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35. It does

Reply to EdmondDantes_ (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 12, 2025, 02:41 PM

Dec 12

I answered your question. It does show how we get past that point. Read it again.

My point has been illustrated with many examples from past shutdown deals. Look back at past shutdowns. Deals were made where both parties would vote for certain things. Concessions were made for votes. No point in enumerating each shutdown deal for you.

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Senate blocks ACA subsidies extension! [View all] ashredux Dec 11 OP

they've had decades to come up with a "plan" Skittles Dec 11 #1

No way! ABC123Easy Dec 11 #2

The only saving grace for that bit of bloodless lunacy might be that they lose 50 House seats Volaris Dec 11 #3

Hope you're right ABC123Easy Dec 11 #19

How would continuing the shutdown have realistically changed the vote? EdmondDantes_ Dec 11 #23

The hypothetical is that if they had waited 10 more days or so until holiday air traffic was locked up Volaris Dec 11 #29

Not so fast ABC123Easy Dec 12 #30

That still doesn't attempt to demonstrate how you get to them voting for it with a longer shutdown EdmondDantes_ Dec 12 #32

It does ABC123Easy Dec 12 #35

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Ending the shutdown guaranteed this result. I'm losing my health insurance Arazi Dec 11 #6

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here again are the 8 Dem caucus Senators and the 6 Dem House members who caved in on the shutdown and got us to here Celerity Dec 11 #8

Lets not kid ourselves.... we would be here either way. FascismIsDeath Dec 11 #11

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So if you disagree with that... FascismIsDeath Dec 11 #16

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I appreciate all the links but I am fully aware of all of the condemnation. FascismIsDeath Dec 11 #21

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On the bright side SocialDemocrat61 Dec 11 #10

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That may happen regardless SocialDemocrat61 Dec 11 #22

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So? SocialDemocrat61 Dec 11 #27

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