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EdmondDantes_

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31. And there was no way a black man could be president

Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:06 PM

Dec 8

Especially not one with a foreign sounding name and running against a war hero. Everything seems impossible until it's done. In 2008 California passed prop 8 to ban same sex marriage. In 2024 the voters repealed that.

The two women we've nominated ran under weird circumstances. Clinton was one of the most unpopular nominees because she had been attacked for decades by Republicans. Harris became the nominee very late and had the headwinds of being in a deeply unpopular administration that she wasn't able to distance herself from.

Additionally they ran against Trump a very charismatic person to a section of the public that felt left out from the progress of the world. At least so far, none of the potential maga successors have replicated Trump's charisma.

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New Poll Reveals Clear Democratic Favorite in 2028 White House Race [View all] applegrove Dec 8 OP

Please no one suggest we must nominate one of our many highly qualified women-- I SOOO WANT TO DO SO, BUT... hlthe2b Dec 8 #1

I hate that! Happy Hoosier Dec 8 #6

We must nominate someone who can win TexasBushwhacker Dec 8 #9

No, it demonstrates sexism TheProle Dec 8 #10

YOU do NOT get to suggest I am "sexist!" for gawd's sakes. That you would suggest that of ME or ANY OTHER WOMAN hlthe2b Dec 8 #12

No one called you sexist. I said it demonstrates sexism. TheProle Dec 8 #14

Shame belongs to anyone who will not critically analyse the CURRENT situation so as to protect our ability hlthe2b Dec 8 #16

To pre-judge a woman as incapable of something, simply by virtue of being a woman, is prejudice. Literally. TheProle Dec 8 #17

NO ONE used the term or suggested incapable. SHAME ON YOU AND YOUR ATTEMPTS TO ATTACK me or any other hlthe2b Dec 8 #19

Not trolling whatsoever TheProle Dec 8 #21

Your last sentence says it all. Kingofalldems Dec 8 #26

JHC---what a horrible try that was. Kingofalldems Dec 8 #25

If you see something you think violates TOS, alert the post TheProle Dec 8 #27

i'm sure everyone here would agree with that statement orleans Dec 8 #39

It's an incredibly supportive community TheProle Dec 8 #41

i am not pre judging any women rampartd Dec 8 #29

Exactly Bettie Dec 8 #67

So shame on Michelle Obama then according to you awesomerwb1 Dec 8 #23

I'll say it angrychair Dec 8 #48

M Obama didn't say ask for permission awesomerwb1 Dec 8 #53

My question still stands angrychair Dec 8 #55

I question the need to spell this out at this time. Hope22 Dec 8 #63

It demonstrates the reality of a country where sexism still holds a slight majority. FascismIsDeath Dec 8 #56

but, but, but - "the party is paying the price of not being BOLD enough ... " stopdiggin Dec 8 #13

And there was no way a black man could be president EdmondDantes_ Dec 8 #31

Timing is everything. No one is saying never. Obama was lightning in a bottle. We will have our female lightning hlthe2b Dec 8 #34

agree agree agree. thank you! nt orleans Dec 8 #40

That's simply an opinion, and one I don't share. EdmondDantes_ Dec 8 #47

uh, huh hlthe2b Dec 8 #52

It is overly apparent popsdenver Dec 8 #36

If "one of our many highly qualified women" declare their candidacy and win the nomination, then great. maxsolomon Dec 8 #37

If we don't have Trump on the ballot or Putin putting his thumb on the scale IronLionZion Dec 8 #38

Please no one suggest that Kamala Harris, a great candidate, lost just because of her gender. thought crime Dec 8 #59

No. That was not the only reason. hlthe2b Dec 8 #60

What about my comment was "so damned dismissive" or "beyond inappropriate"? thought crime Dec 8 #62

The only thing stronger than racism in this country is Bettie Dec 8 #65

We have to nominate someone who can/will WIN Jilly_in_VA Dec 8 #2

Personally, I WANT a candidate who can WIN thought crime Dec 9 #68

Newsom has guts. He took on tRump when others stayed in the shadows, cowering. Sibelius Fan Dec 8 #3

No. Just no. n/t leftstreet Dec 8 #4

Love me some Newsom. But how will he play in GA, NC, PA, MI, WI, AZ in a general election? NCDem47 Dec 8 #5

I'm afraid I have the answer to that ... And it's kinda' what you thought ... -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 8 #7

You could have said similar things about Obama in 2005 tinrobot Dec 8 #11

As they say in legal land: NCDem47 Dec 8 #18

I would suggest we don't run away from California's success. tinrobot Dec 8 #20

That may be (the California issue), but I don't think we have anyone better pinkstarburst Dec 8 #30

He is a white Christian hetero man so that alone makes him more likely JI7 Dec 8 #24

My concern also. Lonestarblue Dec 8 #33

millions of which - have never in their lives voted in a primary stopdiggin Dec 8 #8

I'll be late to my decision again, putting it off until I know who is running Torchlight Dec 8 #15

Polls at this point are simply name recognition. There will be a robust primary of exciting and qualified Nanjeanne Dec 8 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Dec 8 #28

I want to know what role his Trump Troll writer would have RockCreek Dec 8 #32

His social media team is young and dynamic, social media savvy. AloeVera Dec 8 #61

In an actual primary, i can see AOC taking it. SSJVegeta Dec 8 #35

Mark Kelly would be better. intheflow Dec 8 #42

In case it's Mark, just keep in mind DFW Dec 8 #44

JOISY!!!! elleng Dec 8 #57

He's my own early first choice for the 2028 nomination - of course, we'll have to see how he does in the primaries Midwestern Democrat Dec 8 #54

And we'll never nominate the one out of that bunch who is obviously the most qualified to take over on day one DFW Dec 8 #43

I love Pete genxlib Dec 8 #50

Too bad Sen. Kelly has to choose HariSeldon Dec 8 #45

I love Newsome, blueknight73 Dec 8 #46

Let love cast a 'spell' on you... NT GJGCA Dec 8 #64

I will not be voting in the Presidential (D) Primary. ... aggiesal Dec 8 #49

They are getting way over their skis JustAnotherGen Dec 8 #51

I like Newsom and would have no problem supporting him but 2028 is several lifetimes away in politics. FascismIsDeath Dec 8 #58

Way too early. We have any number of good politicians to choose from. Emile Dec 8 #66