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But strictly one way!
I have been making a list for years of who to ship off to Mars. Some of these creeps are less known than others, but they should all be shipped off to Mars:

Tier 1: Marc Andreessen; Elon Musk; Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan ( gender parity! The ladies of the Technofascist war on democracy should join the creeps they enabled so lovingly); Alex Pentland; Rosalind Picard; Ben Waber (basically all of the MIT Media Lab); Bobby Azarian; Eliezer Kudkowsky; Clare Wu; Sabine Hossenfelder; Eric Weinstein; Eric Schmidt; Larry Page; Sergei Brin; Fei Fei Li; Anthony Lewandowski; Geoffrey Hinton; Peter Norvig; Thomas Insel (all Google affiliates basically); Bill Ackman and Neri Oxman; Jessica Krause; RFK; Olivia Nuzzi; (basically all of Maha): Alexandr Wang (basically all of Facebook and all AI scientists with the sole exception of Yan LeCun..he seems okay..he can stay on earth); That Palantir creep Alex something; Elizabeth Holmes; Max Tegmark; Nick Bostrom; Peter Thiel; The Koch Brothers (old fashioned!); The Discovery Institute: mind matters.ai; Denise O’Leary; Jaron Lanier/David Chalmers (annoying and Vr shills); all of Stanford Psychiatry (Keith Humphreys/Smita Das/Nina Vasan-brainless Reefer Madness shills); Karl Friston (his work is more interesting than that of most of these guys but overall he should also be sent to Mars).
Daniele Fanelli and Hashem Al Ghalili (a creep promoting a futuristic prison called Cognify). Really almost all of Stanford, Google, MIT, UCL etc should be sent to Mars. These people are the worst. There are a few scientists who should be allowed to stay on earth, but Mars for the rest; Michael Levine (another creepy guy..it’s more and more of these types and less of anyone recognizable as some sort of regular scientist like Dr Fauci..I feel for people like Dr Fauci who have to know these types. It’s one of the sole pluses of failure and anonymity at least you don’t have to be polite). Larry Summers.
Most of CS really (Yan LeCun, Avi Wigderson, Ryan Williams and Rollo Carpenter are the only four people I have seen so far in that entire field who shouldn’t be sent to Mars on a one way trip).
I have not come across these types in my field (natural sciences) even at those hells. But well.I am a failure so I can trash those creeps adjacent to them. Someone should who isn’t Maha/RFk/Beaglegate or the worst type of faux anti establishment and exploiting it for money or attention. These guys will destroy publicly funded science with their national security and industrial ties and ..well general annoyingness . I am sick of them. Frances Chance. Any VR or other rot shilling type. It’s time to beat it.
All those edtech parasites: e.g.: Sebastian Thrun; that ass Andy Ng and that ghastly Woebot female; Shery Sandberg; that creep Tegmark and that other creep Bostrom; Nick Land; Curtis Yarvin (God this is one stinky flight); Bill and Melinda Gates; all of MAGA and Maha;

Tier 2: Astroturf grifters who had an insincere “change of heart” and then grifted anew. The worst part about these guys is the attempt to hijack any much awaited backlash: Tristan Harris, Roger MacNamee, Cory Doctorow (yeah I know lots of people like him for unclear reasons. It’s why he needs to be sent to Mars. No more of falling for these guys. I cringe when I see him cited by the left); Frances Haugen; Sarah Wynn-Williams (classic case of grift that way first, this way next);

Here is a hint, most actual whistleblowers go into hiding or prison like Daniel Hale or that Fannie Mae woman. Hiding, oh that reminds me..

If they can be squeezed in (for being annoying and libertarian, Putin humping etc whether they paid a price or not): Edward Snowden; Julian Assange; the Cambridge Analytica types, Shahid Buttar etc

(I cheated and cribbed liberally(!) from Yasha Levine. His piece “All effed up” was very helpful to me. He is uniformly helpful on tech, influencers, The Spectacle etc. I part ways with him only on community etc. Nope! No humans and no machines! No community and no mercy 😤. Just one way trips to Mars for this collection of douchebags).

We are draconian with some people and too forgiving with others as a society.

It’s a shit life and there is no relief in sight and we will all have to plod till we die. The damage done will take a long time to reverse. There are never any simple or easy solutions.
But at least we need not die horribly and alone and for that these creeps should be held accountable first ;-/. Oh yeah Merrick Garland. He should also be shipped off to Mars.

We should definitely preemptively ship off heel-daggers, future bogus whistleblowers/influencers/grifters or the annoying (I.e. Snowden etc.) just for good measure.
Influencing is hideous. There are a handful who do good work, many who I support since it is such a shitty world and they are decent people, but the concept is one these technofascists love. Anything but an actually sane society.

A few more creeps:
“Artists”: the sleazy German artist Google gushed about Simon Weckert ; an unknown but creepy “anti imperialist” fraud called Alencier in the global south. Frauds and in the latter case also a creep.
If I want real left leaning art, I’d stick with Yasha Levine’s wife Evgenia Kovda.

That collection of sleazy and creepy “law and order” leftand Yimbies: Slavoj Zizek; Freddie DeBoer and Leighton Woodhouse. All candidates for a one way trip to Mars.

That loathsome edtech creep Sebastian Thrun and he can take his pals at Coursera and Udacity and EdEx with him.
That creep Anthony Lewandowski with his Ai God. That brainless creep Ray Kurzweil.
Kent Anderson and Russel Poldrack -they are just annoying.
Those toads who run RetractionWatch and Ioannidis..not that RetractionWatch doesn’t dinf sleazebags but the atmosphere of paranoia and fear they help induce in normal scientists while bootlicking Google and Facebook and tech as a whole by default by attacking publicly funded science as full of fraud lead to the paranoid post Covid distrust of medicine and science like Trumps “deep state” BS about bureaucrats.
These guys never attack any real centres of power
I care about good quality science too but not this double standard or harassment of good scientists and people like Dr Fauci with the most superficial attacks on science and education and medicine with a libertarian bent directing suspicion at publicly funded science while having no issues with defence contracting or corporations and ignoring issues with the privatization and militarization of science medicine and education.
Fuck those guys