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Tanuki

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Wed Dec 3, 2025, 06:41 AM Dec 3

Hegseth told U.S. soldiers in Iraq to ignore legal advice on rules of engagement [View all]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/02/hegseth-us-soldiers-iraq-rules-engagement

"Pete Hegseth, the US defense secretary, told soldiers under his command in Iraq to ignore legal advice about when they were permitted to kill enemy combatants under their rules of engagement.

The anecdote is contained in a book Hegseth wrote last year in which he also repeatedly railed against the constraints placed on “American warfighters” by the laws of war and the Geneva conventions.
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Prof David M Crane, a former chief prosecutor of the UN special court for Sierra Leone, distinguished scholar in residence at Syracuse University College of Law and an army veteran with 20 years’ service, including stints as a JAG attorney, said obeying rules of engagement was crucial and that those who break them should face sanction.

“After the tragedy of My Lai in 1968, we have tried to avoid another one and prosecute those that do in fact stray. And that happened particularly in Iraq, at Fallujah, and other places in defense, where we had some marines go south and commit war crimes, and they’re prosecuted for it,” he said.
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his book, however, Hegseth called into question the entire edifice of laws of conflict, writing: “If our warriors are forced to follow rules arbitrarily and asked to sacrifice more lives so that international tribunals feel better about themselves, aren’t we just better off winning our wars according to our own rules?! Who cares what other countries think.”.... (more)
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Question Coldwater Dec 3 #1
And then there is this malaise Dec 3 #2
He should resign. He's a disgrace. But he won't. sinkingfeeling Dec 3 #3
You Go Pete BOSSHOG Dec 3 #4
"Do not speak to me of rules! This is war! This is not a game of cricket!" Wednesdays Dec 3 #25
sea cruise poozwah Dec 3 #5
Now that might come close to justice. Tie him up in a fishing boat on his back so he can see the approaching planes. travelingthrulife Dec 3 #20
He needs to face legal consequences IronLionZion Dec 3 #6
Like the sorts of things the Geneva Convention outlawed that he thinks are holding troops back Attilatheblond Dec 3 #23
Kick dalton99a Dec 3 #7
Since Hegseth doeas believe laws are rule should be followed liberalgunwilltravel Dec 3 #8
This maniac and his boss will cross the line from killing enemy combatants to "the enemy within" Martin Eden Dec 3 #9
Do you think these ass holes watch old WWII movies Dread Pirate Roberts Dec 3 #10
Achtung..You VILL obey..und..you VILL like it! BattleRow Dec 3 #32
Just a thought.... FarPoint Dec 3 #11
They were well aware of his defense of Ed Gallagher Tanuki Dec 3 #15
And he was still confirmed!!!! FarPoint Dec 3 #16
Tie vote Retrograde Dec 3 #19
Well..... FarPoint Dec 3 #27
And yet Im sure hes okay Swift Boating John Kerry Johonny Dec 3 #12
Hitler's Barbarossa Decree (1941) allowed the summary execution of the "enemy." sop Dec 3 #13
"Who cares what other countries think .." Bo Zarts Dec 3 #14
They seem to be born without empathy. travelingthrulife Dec 3 #21
Could be genetic. Search empathy and genes Attilatheblond Dec 3 #24
Kill Anything That Moves spike jones Dec 3 #17
I had an "uncle" that told me all sorts of truly horrific stories about Vietnam dingosatemyusername Dec 3 #28
Low IQ individual ecstatic Dec 3 #18
"The senators ... need to be held accountable." Wednesdays Dec 3 #26
Rump, Hegseth, et al, pretend tough guys and gals who act forcefully above the law on every txwhitedove Dec 3 #22
Video of Hegseth Telling Military Not to Follow 'Illegal Orders' Resurfaces (from 2016, when Obama was president) progree Dec 3 #29
The pardons will go to Kegsbreath and maybe a General or Admiral but the grunts will pay. Buddyzbuddy Dec 3 #30
If your read the full article... EAB Dec 3 #31
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