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MarineCombatEngineer

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65. Yep.

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 05:58 PM

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Sounds like the Pentagon has had it with the lies out of Pedonald's and Kegsbreath's pie holes and are now pushing back.
Hopefully this will now make it easier to disobey any clearly illegal orders, like military strikes on Ven. and other countries.

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Karoline Leavitt confirmed that Admiral Frank M."Mitch" Bradley had issued the order to fire on the vessel a second time [View all] Shellback Squid Dec 1 OP

You can bet your bottom dollar that this Admiral wouldn't have ordered the 2nd strike MarineCombatEngineer Dec 1 #1

Exactly angrychair Dec 1 #14

If there was an audio, I would bet money it no longer exists. ananda Dec 1 #16

I don't know, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 1 #22

I agree. Assume nothing. Raven123 Dec 1 #30

How many Ellsberg's have we had so far? ananda Dec 1 #49

Affirm. orangecrush Dec 1 #50

It was the admiral imitating Hegseth. Kablooie Dec 1 #24

Trump will tell the Admiral to keep his mouth shut or lose his rank and pension. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #33

That's a possibility, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 1 #36

Yes but congress won't lose rank and pension. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #45

This whole thing about the fisherman clinging to the wreckage and being killed is pushing my buttons. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #46

Good call duckworth969 Tuesday #53

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Irish_Dem Tuesday #54

Hegseth "authorized it", and the Admiral ordered it, accordingly. thought crime Tuesday #62

Did you catch the recent DU popsdenver Tuesday #64

Yep. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #65

the situation in Venezuela popsdenver Tuesday #67

Department of Defense Law of War Manual Turbineguy Dec 1 #2

methinks Leavitt, Hegseth & Trump are playing a semantics game. Wiz Imp Dec 1 #6

Regardless, popsdenver Dec 1 #15

The general knew that. Right? Autumn Tuesday #56

Well, the book is 1236 pages.... Turbineguy Tuesday #59

Obviously popsdenver Tuesday #66

If she says it, I automatically discount it as another lie Torchlight Dec 1 #3

ditto times infinity n/t librechik Dec 1 #4

This is why it's best to refuse unlawful orders. yardwork Dec 1 #5

I'm just waiting for the word that bluestarone Dec 1 #7

Let's bring the Admiral to kacekwl Dec 1 #8

The It wasn't me defense malaise Dec 1 #9

We're fast approaching a "You're goddamn right I did!" moment from Hegseth Prairie Gates Dec 1 #10

The funny thing about that odins folly Dec 1 #18

This MustLoveBeagles Dec 1 #25

It bothers me that... Shipwack Dec 1 #29

Ladies and gentlemen clevergrrrl Dec 1 #11

_ LudwigPastorius Dec 1 #12

Hegseth meet bus MustLoveBeagles Dec 1 #27

Seems there was a German U-boat commander popsdenver Dec 1 #13

It's ironic, too. thought crime Tuesday #63

THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HE DID. Grins Dec 1 #17

Not likely. paleotn Dec 1 #23

Is this what Jesus would do? Jesus. twodogsbarking Dec 1 #19

the "pro-life Christian" folk Skittles Dec 1 #44

Dammit. The first strike was illegal Easterncedar Dec 1 #20

yeah but this second strike is easier to prove as a war crime LymphocyteLover Dec 1 #21

It is a grotesque analogy mr715 Dec 1 #37

Hmm, haven't heard of that. What is that effect? LymphocyteLover Tuesday #55

Atomic war crimes mr715 Tuesday #60

oh yes, I've heard that argument... makes sense LymphocyteLover Tuesday #61

Extrajudicial killing is wrong Easterncedar Dec 1 #41

Someone is going to pay the price or this. MissouriDem47 Dec 1 #26

Admiral Bradley: witness for the prosecution. Buddyzbuddy Dec 1 #28

This is their story mr715 Dec 1 #31

In Russia, lower ranks always take the blame for higher ranks. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #32

In the US, lower ranks often take the blame for higher ranks. mr715 Dec 1 #38

Yep. The way the world works. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #42

Shouldn't Trump have a gold-plated sign with the phrase "The Buck Stops Here" on the Resolute desk in the Oval Office? sop Dec 1 #34

Anybody else Traildogbob Dec 1 #35

So many questions. Clearly lots of interviews are needed. bronxiteforever Dec 1 #39

What drives me crazy about this... Trueblue Texan Dec 1 #40

. Zelda_Orchid Dec 1 #43

The military, when faced with an eff up, will sacrifice the lowest ranked person who will appease the gods. Blumancru Dec 1 #47

As soon as Democrats regain control of Congress Emile Dec 1 #48

No words for this kwolf68 Dec 1 #51

That is plainly illegal, and German navy war criminals were executed after WWII RockRaven Dec 1 #52

Bradley knew the order was illegal and he gave the order to fire the second time? Autumn Tuesday #57

The scapegoat: dalton99a Tuesday #58