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37. Deadline: Legal Blog--Supreme Court is last stand in E. Jean Carroll's legal vindication against Trump
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 05:16 PM
Nov 29

Trump recently signaled he’ll ask the Supreme Court to review his previous appeals court loss in the other Carroll case, where she won $5 million.

Will the right-wing Supreme Court majority rule that rape is fine if the rapist is a president and the president rapist should be allowed to defame his victims? Only time will tell.

Supreme Court is last stand in E. Jean Carroll's legal vindication against Trump www.msnbc.com/deadline-whi...

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https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/e-jean-carroll-defamation-trump-loses-83-million-rcna229822

In the first of two related cases that went to trial, a jury found Trump liable for sexual assault and defamation and awarded Carroll $5 million. The 2nd Circuit previously upheld those damages in the case in which Trump has a Supreme Court petition due Nov. 10.

In Monday’s ruling, the New York-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit concluded that the five-figure damages “were reasonable in light of the extraordinary and egregious facts of this case.” The three-judge panel also rejected Trump’s arguments that the Supreme Court’s immunity ruling saves him and that the district judge who presided over the case made erroneous legal rulings.....

Monday’s decision involves the second of the two cases that went to trial, where a jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million for statements Trump made when he was still in office. The panel rejected his argument that the damages were excessive, reasoning that there was “ample evidence that Trump was recklessly indifferent to Carroll’s health and safety.” The panel noted that his statements “had a domino effect,” as Carroll “was subjected to ongoing and prolific harassment as a result of these statements, including a multitude of death threats and other threats of physical injury.”

Trump’s conduct “supports a significant punitive damages award — it involved malice and deceit, caused severe emotional injury, and continued over at least a five-year period,” the panel concluded.

The three judges on Monday’s panel were appointed by former Presidents Joe Biden and Barack Obama. In the $5 million case that’s further along on appeal, Trump had asked the full 2nd Circuit to review the case before taking it to the Supreme Court. The full appeals court declined to do so, but two Trump appointees dissented while suggesting that Trump was treated unfairly. In his forthcoming petition to the justices in that case, his lawyers might seek to highlight that dissent to a likeminded Supreme Court majority. That’s all to say that in both Carroll cases, the appeals court’s rejections of Trump’s arguments might not be the final word.

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This is not difficult to look up using google. yardwork Nov 29 #1
Reading legal jargon Sugarcoated Nov 29 #4
What. Google newspaper articles. yardwork Nov 29 #7
I'm not as smart as some of you guys Sugarcoated Nov 29 #9
Um hm. yardwork Nov 29 #15
Why don't you just answer the question? nt LAS14 Nov 29 #19
What part of "your acquaintance is wrong" couldn't you understand? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Nov 30 #45
It's a good question and I gave it some thought. yardwork Nov 30 #49
Why don't you just answer the question? nt LAS14 Nov 29 #20
Wow Polybius Nov 29 #38
Sorry people are giving you such a hard time Nittersing Nov 30 #48
We all ask questions here..sometimes we miss the post that has the answer and sometimes a poster is in a bad mood Deuxcents Nov 29 #12
Some folks do seem to be cranky with debunking type questions Sugarcoated Nov 29 #24
Mine, also. I get most of my information details here and thankfully, there are lots of informed posters Deuxcents Nov 29 #29
I'm the same crimycarny Nov 29 #14
Yeah, so much to read to get to the bottom of things Sugarcoated Nov 29 #23
Really? Are you that confused by Trump's lies? yardwork Nov 30 #50
They didn't say they were asking about a "Trump lie." vanlassie Nov 30 #56
And several of us are irritated by this concern here. yardwork Nov 30 #57
If there's something you don't understand, then you need to say what it is muriel_volestrangler Nov 30 #46
Do you think Trump raped her? Blues Heron Nov 30 #53
I use DuckDuckGo. It seems to have less bias and doesn't track you like Google does. Attilatheblond Nov 29 #6
Uh- why not ask it here? Alliepoo Nov 29 #33
Search in DU on E Jene Carrol. haele Nov 29 #2
E. Jean Carroll. yardwork Nov 29 #8
Give me a break, I was texting one handed while holding the tree straight... haele Nov 29 #30
Understood! We were putting up the tree, too! yardwork Nov 30 #44
No problem, it just struck me as funny.... haele Nov 30 #54
Are you having a bad day Alliepoo Nov 29 #34
No, not at all. I was having a great day with family yesterday. yardwork Nov 30 #43
No. The election interference case i GA was dismissed though Attilatheblond Nov 29 #3
Thanks for the reply Sugarcoated Nov 29 #21
No, it has not been dismissed videohead5 Nov 29 #5
I didn't think so Sugarcoated Nov 29 #22
He was found *liable* (not guilty, since it was a civil, not criminal case) Fiendish Thingy Nov 29 #10
So frustrating, gets away with so much Sugarcoated Nov 29 #16
Well, everyone has the right to an appeal Fiendish Thingy Nov 29 #18
The $5 million judgment has been appealed to SCOTUS, but Carroll's opposition isn't due until January onenote Nov 29 #42
Thanks for letting me run it by you guys Sugarcoated Nov 29 #11
Absolutely not. A jury wouldn't dismiss a verdict anyhow; that's not their job. Ocelot II Nov 29 #13
Thanks for the reply, appreciate it Sugarcoated Nov 29 #17
Status of Trump appeal of verdict in E. Jean Carroll case onenote Nov 29 #41
Going from memory it may be that her lawyers did not win on the harshest of allegations AZJonnie Nov 29 #25
Thank you for the very detailed response Sugarcoated Nov 29 #27
The Trumpster is lying. Emile Nov 29 #26
Always Sugarcoated Nov 29 #28
I don't think drmeow Nov 29 #31
Juries render verdicts. After they have done so, they are discharged. rsdsharp Nov 29 #32
Juries render verdicts, Judges dismiss cases. marble falls Nov 29 #36
Juries Don't RobinA Nov 29 #35
Deadline: Legal Blog--Supreme Court is last stand in E. Jean Carroll's legal vindication against Trump LetMyPeopleVote Nov 29 #37
Washington Post: Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll CBHagman Nov 29 #39
Yes the judge did clarify this LetMyPeopleVote Nov 30 #52
Jesus Christ. nt LexVegas Nov 29 #40
Exactly. /nt yardwork Nov 30 #51
No, they did not Bettie Nov 30 #47
No. The jury found in Carroll's favor. Trump is asking the Supreme Court to overturn this judgement. Eugene Nov 30 #55
To answer your question choie Nov 30 #58
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