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23. Trump's indictment was actually IN COURT when we voted
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 10:01 AM
Aug 2025

...you completely ignore that, even as the case was before Judge Chutkan, the Supreme Court gave Trump immunity for 'official acts' which forced Smith to revise the charges to counter that interference by the maga majority months before the election.

September 5, 2024

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -A U.S. judge on Thursday accused Donald Trump's lawyers of trying to stop potentially damaging evidence of his effort to overturn his 2020 election loss from becoming public before the Nov. 5 election, while acknowledging the case would not go to trial before then.

U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan also gave prosecutors what is likely their last chance to divulge evidence in the case before the election, ordering Special Counsel Jack Smith to respond by Sept. 26 to a ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court that former presidents have broad immunity from criminal prosecution.

Thomas Windom, a prosecutor in Smith's office, told Chutkan prosecutors were prepared to reveal potentially new evidence in their filing to argue that their remaining case against Trump is not affected by the high court's ruling and should proceed to trial.

A revised indictment obtained by Smith in August preserved the same four charges first brought last year, but dropped allegations the Supreme Court found could not remain part of the case.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-judge-weigh-path-forward-100455749.html

...did you want them to investigate the rioter's ties to the Trump WH, or not?


Several months after the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, FBI investigators began pursuing a tantalizing tip suggesting that Donald Trump had possibly met with members of the Proud Boys, the far-right group that took part in some of the most brutal violence that day, people briefed on the investigation told CNN.
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For months, the FBI and a team of prosecutors looked for potential links between Trump’s inner circle and the Proud Boys, whose leader was ultimately found guilty of seditious conspiracy and is serving 22 years in prison, the longest sentence of any January 6 defendant.

Investigators spent much of that summer poring over call records of Proud Boys members and conducting scores of interviews. They homed in on a period in late 2020, when an informant alleged an interaction between Trump or his inner circle and the Proud Boys occurred.

Prosecutors inside the Justice Department also dug through reams of opaque financial records, searching for any direct links between Trump and the organizations that brought “Stop the Steal” rallygoers to Washington for his speech ahead of the Capitol attack. From there, they examined the so-called war room setup at the Willard hotel in Washington, where Steve Bannon and other Trump supporters strategized how to thwart the certification of Joe Biden’s electoral victory.

In the end, no direct criminal links to Trump emerged. The suspected Proud Boys meeting, the Willard hotel room and the rally fundraising were all dead ends.

“The evidence just wasn’t there,” one former Justice Department official told CNN.

While federal investigators continued to pursue Trump over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, mostly done in plain sight, they always faced long odds and a ticking political clock. The countdown compressed as Trump went from party pariah to inevitable Republican nominee, and expired once he won reelection.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-judge-weigh-path-forward-100455749.html

...also, if you take the time to read Smith's revised indictment reissued in September 2024, you'll see references to the Willard Hotel and passages about Trump influencing the rioters to attack the Capitol.

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Ben Wittes at Lawfare bigtree Aug 2025 #1
I have stated my opinion numerous times gab13by13 Aug 2025 #2
Right? Cosmocat Aug 2025 #15
A simple question: Chasstev365 Aug 2025 #3
you didn't figure in any republican judge or justice bigtree Aug 2025 #6
The long stretch of inactivity, and the long stretch that followed of minimal activity, Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #4
The case is: he failed, and he projected a meek quality that made him a natural scapegoat, who deserved it. Blues Heron Aug 2025 #5
we failed to back him up with our votes bigtree Aug 2025 #8
The last sentence makes sense to me. yardwork Aug 2025 #7
I guess no one is defending edhopper Aug 2025 #9
This boils down to "Garland was slow, but the Supreme Court might have blocked him anyway, and Republican voters muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #10
where, specifically are you claiming Garland was 'slow'? bigtree Aug 2025 #11
From the article: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #12
'optimal speed' bigtree Aug 2025 #14
Fall 2021 - there's a delay of over 6 months. And a "slow-moving" strategy was the wrong one muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #17
jesus, do you know anything about prosecutions? bigtree Aug 2025 #18
Trump should have been the priority, not the rioters muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #19
Garland treated BOTH as a priority bigtree Aug 2025 #20
Apart from the failure to bring Trump to court before the 2024 election muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #21
Trump's indictment was actually IN COURT when we voted bigtree Aug 2025 #23
"In court" - meaning charges were listed, not that Trump was in court, with evidence being laid before a jury muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #28
there was a judge assigned, holding hearings in a courtroom who was approving all of the evidence bigtree Aug 2025 #29
A nice crock of baloney. lees1975 Aug 2025 #13
they moved as fast as the courts allowed bigtree Aug 2025 #16
Congress laid out the evidence in an investigation that was as complete as anything the DOJ had done lees1975 Aug 2025 #27
read the Smith report bigtree Aug 2025 #30
Imagine having "Defending Merrick Garland" be your political priority in 2025 thebigidea Aug 2025 #22
I'm more comfortable defending people who prosecuted Trump than attacking them bigtree Aug 2025 #24
He should have appointed Jack Smith immediately, rather than 2 years later. Bluepinky Aug 2025 #25
show us specifically where that would have made a difference bigtree Aug 2025 #32
He gave them a hat (to buy) MaineBlueBear Aug 2025 #26
I have zero problem with people defending Marrick Garland. gab13by13 Aug 2025 #31
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