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16. they moved as fast as the courts allowed
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 09:20 AM
Aug 2025

...Garland's man who began collecting evidence in the fall of 2021, Tom Windom, was still in court defending the evidence he collected against appeals when we voted.

Who looks at charges brought almost FIFTEEN MONTHS before the election and delayed by the Supreme Court right up until just before we voted, and blames the prosecutors?

Who is blaming prosecutors right now, for that matter, for prosecuting that people claim wasn't happening.

Where's your evidence to back up your claims?

Where's you evidence that the DOJ could have brought a case in 2023? Where is that brilliant document of charges. Where's the list? Where's the evidence that you claim was ready to be presented to a grand jury, which is what the federal government uses to bring charges forward?

Where's your proof that there was actual evidence available to be presented to a grand jury, not to mention to a court in 2023, not just internet babble?

Take a simple minute and read the Smith report which outlined the extraordinary number of appeals and challenges, most of them eventually successfully argued by Garland's team of prosecutors, even through Smith;s appointment.

Just saying that these things could have been done quickly isn't proof at all. Prove it. What you claim is absurd, and ignores so much that it's clear you have no idea what Garland's prosecutors were actually doing.

People like to tell me I'm some sop for Garland, but what I'm not is a patsy or dupe for seemingly uninformed, nonfactual claims about Garland and his prosecutors.

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Ben Wittes at Lawfare bigtree Aug 2025 #1
I have stated my opinion numerous times gab13by13 Aug 2025 #2
Right? Cosmocat Aug 2025 #15
A simple question: Chasstev365 Aug 2025 #3
you didn't figure in any republican judge or justice bigtree Aug 2025 #6
The long stretch of inactivity, and the long stretch that followed of minimal activity, Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #4
The case is: he failed, and he projected a meek quality that made him a natural scapegoat, who deserved it. Blues Heron Aug 2025 #5
we failed to back him up with our votes bigtree Aug 2025 #8
The last sentence makes sense to me. yardwork Aug 2025 #7
I guess no one is defending edhopper Aug 2025 #9
This boils down to "Garland was slow, but the Supreme Court might have blocked him anyway, and Republican voters muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #10
where, specifically are you claiming Garland was 'slow'? bigtree Aug 2025 #11
From the article: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #12
'optimal speed' bigtree Aug 2025 #14
Fall 2021 - there's a delay of over 6 months. And a "slow-moving" strategy was the wrong one muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #17
jesus, do you know anything about prosecutions? bigtree Aug 2025 #18
Trump should have been the priority, not the rioters muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #19
Garland treated BOTH as a priority bigtree Aug 2025 #20
Apart from the failure to bring Trump to court before the 2024 election muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #21
Trump's indictment was actually IN COURT when we voted bigtree Aug 2025 #23
"In court" - meaning charges were listed, not that Trump was in court, with evidence being laid before a jury muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #28
there was a judge assigned, holding hearings in a courtroom who was approving all of the evidence bigtree Aug 2025 #29
A nice crock of baloney. lees1975 Aug 2025 #13
they moved as fast as the courts allowed bigtree Aug 2025 #16
Congress laid out the evidence in an investigation that was as complete as anything the DOJ had done lees1975 Aug 2025 #27
read the Smith report bigtree Aug 2025 #30
Imagine having "Defending Merrick Garland" be your political priority in 2025 thebigidea Aug 2025 #22
I'm more comfortable defending people who prosecuted Trump than attacking them bigtree Aug 2025 #24
He should have appointed Jack Smith immediately, rather than 2 years later. Bluepinky Aug 2025 #25
show us specifically where that would have made a difference bigtree Aug 2025 #32
He gave them a hat (to buy) MaineBlueBear Aug 2025 #26
I have zero problem with people defending Marrick Garland. gab13by13 Aug 2025 #31
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