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Joinfortmill

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Wed Aug 20, 2025, 07:40 AM Aug 2025

'The Situation: In Defense of Merrick Garland' [View all]

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-situation--in-defense-of-merrick-garland

My words: Let's look at the facts and see where they lead us. Please be polite to each other, and please don't shoot the messenger. Please note that the bold is mine.

'The case against Garland is that he did not act fast enough, that the Justice Department should have opened an investigation against Trump immediately upon his leaving office, and that had it done so, Trump would have been convicted and we would not be where we are today...

Imagine for a moment that the Justice Department had moved at breakneck speed. What is the earliest we can reasonably hypothesize that they might have been ready to bring a case before a grand jury? The case was, in fact, filed in August 2023, a little more than two-and-a-half years after Trump departed the White House...

But let’s imagine for a moment that the Justice Department had managed to get an indictment done and filed within a year after Trump left office, which is to say Jan. 20, 2022. This is, roughly speaking, a year and a half earlier than it managed the task in fact...Would things have been different? The answer seems to me pretty clearly not.

For starters, we know exactly how the first year plus would have played out—because there is no reason to imagine it would have been any different from the time since August 2023. Trump would have asserted presidential immunity, the same as he did, in fact....Imagine that this process ate up just under a year, just as it actually did. So now in our hypothetical world it’s late 2022 or early 2023, and we are roughly where we are now in the litigation.

So even if this case were not about to go away and Trump were not about to become president, do you really think we’d be done with trial a year and half from now?... In fact, we’d be lucky to be done at the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals by then..

Garland and Monaco’s pokiness—even assuming it was real and not merely optical—was not the rate-limiting step. It was not the factor that prevented Trump from facing conviction before the election. The rate-limiting step, rather, was the onerous set of conditions the Supreme Court put in the way of a president facing trial for Jan. 6 or any other conduct that took place while he was in office.

To be clear, I am not saying that the investigation was handled with optimal speed. And I have a lot of questions about a number of choices regarding both the Jan. 6 investigation and the classified documents case. .. All of these questions, including the speed question, are legitimate.

But the search for an explanation for Trump’s election in the individual decisions of law enforcement figures is wrongheaded. Donald Trump didn’t get elected in 2016 because of Jim Comey, and he didn’t get elected this year because of Merrick Garland either. The sooner we stop looking for investigative “but for” explanations in the justice system and start facing the reality of his attraction to tens of millions of people, the sooner we can hope to begin counteracting those attractions.'



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Ben Wittes at Lawfare bigtree Aug 2025 #1
I have stated my opinion numerous times gab13by13 Aug 2025 #2
Right? Cosmocat Aug 2025 #15
A simple question: Chasstev365 Aug 2025 #3
you didn't figure in any republican judge or justice bigtree Aug 2025 #6
The long stretch of inactivity, and the long stretch that followed of minimal activity, Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #4
The case is: he failed, and he projected a meek quality that made him a natural scapegoat, who deserved it. Blues Heron Aug 2025 #5
we failed to back him up with our votes bigtree Aug 2025 #8
The last sentence makes sense to me. yardwork Aug 2025 #7
I guess no one is defending edhopper Aug 2025 #9
This boils down to "Garland was slow, but the Supreme Court might have blocked him anyway, and Republican voters muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #10
where, specifically are you claiming Garland was 'slow'? bigtree Aug 2025 #11
From the article: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #12
'optimal speed' bigtree Aug 2025 #14
Fall 2021 - there's a delay of over 6 months. And a "slow-moving" strategy was the wrong one muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #17
jesus, do you know anything about prosecutions? bigtree Aug 2025 #18
Trump should have been the priority, not the rioters muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #19
Garland treated BOTH as a priority bigtree Aug 2025 #20
Apart from the failure to bring Trump to court before the 2024 election muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #21
Trump's indictment was actually IN COURT when we voted bigtree Aug 2025 #23
"In court" - meaning charges were listed, not that Trump was in court, with evidence being laid before a jury muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #28
there was a judge assigned, holding hearings in a courtroom who was approving all of the evidence bigtree Aug 2025 #29
A nice crock of baloney. lees1975 Aug 2025 #13
they moved as fast as the courts allowed bigtree Aug 2025 #16
Congress laid out the evidence in an investigation that was as complete as anything the DOJ had done lees1975 Aug 2025 #27
read the Smith report bigtree Aug 2025 #30
Imagine having "Defending Merrick Garland" be your political priority in 2025 thebigidea Aug 2025 #22
I'm more comfortable defending people who prosecuted Trump than attacking them bigtree Aug 2025 #24
He should have appointed Jack Smith immediately, rather than 2 years later. Bluepinky Aug 2025 #25
show us specifically where that would have made a difference bigtree Aug 2025 #32
He gave them a hat (to buy) MaineBlueBear Aug 2025 #26
I have zero problem with people defending Marrick Garland. gab13by13 Aug 2025 #31
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