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Fiendish Thingy

(20,667 posts)
110. That's not how it works
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 07:06 PM
Jun 2025

Judges have to sign search warrants, and they, not the AG, determine whether bail is set or not; you should probably read up on the Espionage Act, and the difference between unlawful possession, removal and retention of national defense information.

Trump was charged with unlawful retention of national defense information, which required months of back and forth between Trump and the archives to establish that Trump was unwilling to return the documents he had.

If Garland had attempted to charge unlawful possession or removal of documents, one of two things would have happened:

1) Joe Biden and Mike Pence would also now be on trial for those charges, or

2) the charges would have been dropped, or the grand jury would refuse to indict because knowledge and intent could not be established (this is the more likely outcome, which is why Garland wisely chose to charge for retention instead)

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I am livid and angry... FarPoint Jun 2025 #1
Right. Garland and Biden have their share of blame, but this really goes back Bluetus Jun 2025 #76
Post removed Post removed Jun 2025 #107
...How are penises relevant here? Lancero Jun 2025 #122
I echo your statement and i go little further, i can no longer stand him. He ruined the USA Trueblue1968 Jun 2025 #137
Time Mattered gab13by13 Jun 2025 #2
Garland history Be Leave On Jun 2025 #128
Because of 'hoping' to 'appease' the extreme-right 'opposition' Justice matters. Jun 2025 #130
Never should have come to this... MiHale Jun 2025 #3
Post removed Post removed Jun 2025 #4
Secret? I assumed that he was one lostnfound Jun 2025 #9
Didn't know he was officially a member. Chasstev365 Jun 2025 #10
It's possible that both Obama and Biden didn't do their homework. Omnipresent Jun 2025 #12
Spot On! Chasstev365 Jun 2025 #16
I don't think so. I think Obama was trying to select someone KPN Jun 2025 #100
That's a terrible reason to appoint someone to such an important position. Crunchy Frog Jun 2025 #116
I am a little sceptical about their ignorance regarding Garland JanMichael Jun 2025 #141
He isn't. As far as I know. summer_in_TX Jun 2025 #132
I call him Merrick the Meek. CrispyQ Jun 2025 #52
Could've, would've, should've. Not productive, magical thinking. Walleye Jun 2025 #5
Agreed. The here-and-now requires our immediate attention. Magoo48 Jun 2025 #53
Good one. My mom used to say if wishes were horses even beggars would ride. Walleye Jun 2025 #56
Agree MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2025 #65
He fucked us royally... 2naSalit Jun 2025 #6
Very POed at him BluenFLA Jun 2025 #7
Agreed. Garland's two-year delay on the J6 proseqution and searching of MAL... brush Jun 2025 #15
He is in on it possibly, or maybe he's been threatened. Either way he deliberately caused this outcome. Blues Heron Jun 2025 #8
Biden chose Garland BeyondGeography Jun 2025 #11
Nah. You seem to have forgotten the two impeachments and Madame Pelosi's J6 Hearings. brush Jun 2025 #19
You appear to have slept through 2021 BeyondGeography Jun 2025 #20
2021? Read my post again. you seem to have slept thu Biden's whole admin from '21-'24. brush Jun 2025 #30
I agree 100% BeerBarrelPolka Jun 2025 #21
Garland "approach" was Biden's. Kid Berwyn Jun 2025 #49
Wish I could recommend this post more than once. Xavier Breath Jun 2025 #51
NO MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2025 #66
in before his apologists start the scoldings Celerity Jun 2025 #13
"bIdEn ApPoInTeD him!" Orrex Jun 2025 #41
Livid NewHendoLib Jun 2025 #14
No. Stop this. He did his job. sCOTUS was the problem, plus FoxNews and Republicans!! LymphocyteLover Jun 2025 #17
Indeed. Why didn't Republicans vote to impeach him for inciting an insurrection? That would emulatorloo Jun 2025 #74
Because they were scared shitless of his violent supporters. Justice matters. Jun 2025 #131
Bingo. Number 1 reason we have this criminal monster in the presidency is because Republicans LymphocyteLover Jun 2025 #139
Right! Cirsium Jun 2025 #96
Jack Smith's multiple indictments of trump were not "shoddy work", if that's what you're implying LymphocyteLover Jun 2025 #140
Either you stop fascism.. Cirsium Jun 2025 #143
Hard to do when the judicial system is so corrupt LymphocyteLover Jun 2025 #148
It is always hard to do Cirsium Jun 18 #150
I thought Garland was just weak... Escape Jun 2025 #18
One would think that further action by Garland Prairie_Seagull Jun 2025 #22
I'm also mad at Mitch McConnell. If not for McConnell telling his caucus to vote against impeaching Trump, Vinca Jun 2025 #23
Yes, he shares much of the blame for trump 2.0 and the damage... brush Jun 2025 #45
Not really. He has no relevant decision-making agency any more Torchlight Jun 2025 #24
It is the same story over and over again isn't it? gab13by13 Jun 2025 #31
You nailed it. republianmushroom Jun 2025 #144
Careful, or you'll incur the gatekeeping wrath of the cheerleaders Orrex Jun 2025 #25
You Goddamn Fuckin' A Right I Am! Woodycall Jun 2025 #26
Absolutely Pototan Jun 2025 #27
Yeah, unfortunately it was Joe's worst appointment. brush Jun 2025 #47
A poodle 90-percent Jun 2025 #109
I am eternally enraged at this putz BonnieJW Jun 2025 #28
Utah Senator Mike Lee gab13by13 Jun 2025 #29
Merrick is a traitor out of fear for his precious reputation. lark Jun 2025 #32
Some of us got into a lot of trouble for voicing our disgust with MG. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #33
lol, none of y'all "got into trouble." Did DU ban y'all? Obviously not. emulatorloo Jun 2025 #71
EXACTLY MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2025 #92
There is more than enough blame to go around. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #104
Most of us can walk and chew gum at the same time JanMichael Jun 2025 #142
Amen republianmushroom Jun 2025 #145
One can't be upset with Garland and also not upset at Garland's boss. themaguffin Jun 2025 #34
Even Garland's boss was not happy with him. Mr.WeRP Jun 2025 #36
He needed to do something. This was not a normal moment. themaguffin Jun 2025 #37
Totally agree Mr.WeRP Jun 2025 #39
This place, among others, were warned about Garland Mr.WeRP Jun 2025 #35
At the end of the day a coward Ponietz Jun 2025 #38
Elon and Trump should have be held accountable FOR STEALING the 2024 election. Out of the mouth of felons. usaf-vet Jun 2025 #40
dont forgett the 2016 election too also. AllaN01Bear Jun 2025 #43
W in 2000? czarjak Jun 2025 #133
yeppers . that is how i found du . been here ever since. AllaN01Bear Jun 2025 #134
if the r congress had done their job . AllaN01Bear Jun 2025 #42
It has been obvious since 2015 Hornedfrog2000 Jun 2025 #44
Perpetually pissed at him get the red out Jun 2025 #46
Pissed, more like disturbingly disgusted! Emile Jun 2025 #48
Yes, along with many others. Autumn Jun 2025 #50
Have been for years. Susan Calvin Jun 2025 #54
What's the point now? IronLionZion Jun 2025 #55
I blame Trump for Trump and the evil hearted bastards that voted for him. Joinfortmill Jun 2025 #57
Ive thought that Garland Maine Abu El Banat Jun 2025 #58
I was thinking the same way a few days ago. If Only.... Bread and Circuses Jun 2025 #59
LOL. All of this could have been avoided if those supposed self-identified progressives voted for VP Harris. JohnSJ Jun 2025 #60
Young people and people of color stayed home on election day Ponietz Jun 2025 #80
After everything MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2025 #61
emptywheel Kali999 Jun 2025 #62
You mean still pissed? happy feet Jun 2025 #63
STOP THIS!!! orchidlady Jun 2025 #64
Scapegoating is much easier than critical thinking. Fiendish Thingy Jun 2025 #72
agreed orchidlady Jun 2025 #149
I can't get enough of things that are unintentionally funny. BannonsLiver Jun 2025 #81
NO orangecrush Jun 2025 #94
This is ridiculous. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #129
If the country is destroyed orangecrush Jun 2025 #67
All of this could have been prevented... bsiebs Jun 2025 #68
After a Rebl2 Jun 2025 #69
Not me Fiendish Thingy Jun 2025 #70
The Supreme Court and congressional Republicans. GOP'ers could have ended Trump in 2020 by impeaching him. emulatorloo Jun 2025 #77
He did not do his job questionseverything Jun 2025 #102
That's not how it works Fiendish Thingy Jun 2025 #110
Honestly I don't remember the guys name but he took one piece of classified info and he is doing years for it questionseverything Jun 2025 #111
Think about this: Fiendish Thingy Jun 2025 #112
He had no authority after he left office questionseverything Jun 2025 #113
Neither did Pence Fiendish Thingy Jun 2025 #119
Sure, y'all go ahead and let Trump and The Supreme Court off the hook. emulatorloo Jun 2025 #73
Nope. You Garland scapegoaters will remain forever wrong. Factually wrong. The facts condemn your willful stupidity. ancianita Jun 2025 #75
Damn straight. Rec. emulatorloo Jun 2025 #78
Cut and paste to your heart's desire. BannonsLiver Jun 2025 #82
LOL okay, if you say so, sir. Seriously researched & posted on DU while it all was happeniong, dude. ancianita Jun 2025 #83
Why do some people choose to deny the factual truth MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2025 #91
Rhetorical question? ancianita Jun 2025 #93
There were so many opportunities to stop this madman. It was systemic failure. Borogove Jun 2025 #79
"Many opportunities" is right. Karasu Jun 2025 #117
I was pissed at him since day 2, but was shut down because I was to I had jrthin Jun 2025 #84
He didn't do a very good job. But when he was appointed people on here were giddy Buckeyeblue Jun 2025 #85
The Republican Party SARose Jun 2025 #86
Anyone else pissed at Susan Sarandon? Wednesdays Jun 2025 #87
For sure, but what good does it do us now? SKKY Jun 2025 #88
Think Biden and Garland knew what a chitshow it would be going after trump. Turned out that way too. trump gained suppor Silent Type Jun 2025 #89
. Renew Deal Jun 2025 #90
Merrick the Meek says it all. republianmushroom Jun 2025 #95
Merrick Garland and... BlueKentuckyGirl Jun 2025 #97
Slightly, but anger at Garland doesn't help the current situation. forgotmylogin Jun 2025 #98
Every single day that ends in "y". Buddyzbuddy Jun 2025 #99
No, sorry; elleng Jun 2025 #101
More than words can say, but I'm sure the Federalist Society and pootin are quite pleased with him SheltieLover Jun 2025 #103
Merrick is a Federalist Fellow Traveler kiri Jun 2025 #105
Source these claims or you're making shit up. You have no idea what history will say about AG Merrick Garland. ancianita Jun 2025 #121
Everyday I wonder where that little f*cking rat is hiding!!! tazcat Jun 2025 #106
yup, wrong guy at a crucial time. We may never be back. SCOTUS is equally to blame Mister Roberts. n/t Evolve Dammit Jun 2025 #108
Yeah. I wish his boss would have hired someone else. Crunchy Frog Jun 2025 #114
Long time Iamscrewed Jun 2025 #115
Doormat Akakoji Jun 2025 #118
Water under the bridge but... VanceFan Jun 2025 #120
Perpetually... But I am MORE pissed at everyone who didn't vote for Harris Sparkly Jun 2025 #123
Garland graycampervan Jun 2025 #124
... ancianita Jun 2025 #125
Maybe the guy who appointed him should get some of that blame too. RockRaven Jun 2025 #126
Yes, but... Mike Nelson Jun 2025 #127
The biggest national security fuck up of our lifetime ecstatic Jun 2025 #135
Don't forget Comey! I do NOT ever "forgive and forget" BigmanPigman Jun 2025 #136
Yawn. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2025 #138
how? bigtree Jun 2025 #146
Ho hum. It's unclear to me what good purpose is served by all of this backward-looking hand-wringing. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2025 #147
Yes, whenever I'm reminded of the wimp from hell. nt ImNotGod Jun 18 #151
Him and Mitch McConnel are the two people doc03 Jun 18 #152
I am as well. . . Stargleamer Jun 19 #153
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