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Vogon_Glory

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10. There's also speculation that far-ranging French and English fishermen were
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 02:17 PM
Jun 2025

fishing near Canada and Newfoundland off-the-books in the late 15th century. Since the English fishermen had to worry about the Hanseatic League as well as English royal officials, they didn’t go out of their way to say where their catches were actually coming from.

The point is that word about the Americas would have gotten around, even if Ferdinand and Isabella had given Columbus the bum’s rush in the early 1490’s and threatened to behead him if he was found anywhere in Iberia ever again.

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I am pissed a Columbus's navigator Fiendish Thingy Jun 2025 #1
It's my understanding that PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2025 #17
But his milquetoast navigator could have told him to keep going Fiendish Thingy Jun 2025 #19
WHAT milquetoast navigator?? PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2025 #23
Shhh... Fiendish Thingy Jun 2025 #24
Who would have been next? RoseTrellis Jun 2025 #2
Leif Erickson came to Newfoundland in the 11th century milestogo Jun 2025 #4
There's also speculation that far-ranging French and English fishermen were Vogon_Glory Jun 2025 #10
Well, that's really way "off-the-books" when you cross an Ocean and then pretend you didn't. milestogo Jun 2025 #16
A lot of trouble for high returns Vogon_Glory Jun 2025 #20
Anyone else pissed at people who are wasting pisses on long dead people? Srkdqltr Jun 2025 #3
We need to learn from the past so we don't repeat it. And each new generation needs to learn from the older one. CTyankee Jun 2025 #8
I blame ships. betsuni Jun 2025 #5
I blame electricmonk Jun 2025 #11
. MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2025 #14
When I told my coworker I discovered the Beatles in 1982 Torchlight Jun 2025 #6
Columbus isn't Italian and didn't land in the continental USA AStern Jun 2025 #7
Say what? aurora the great Jun 2025 #12
That part of Italy was part of Spain in his day. AStern Jun 2025 #15
Latest reporting on his DNA results claims he was not Italian wishstar Jun 2025 #22
All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets. Voltaire Ping Tung Jun 2025 #9
Yes, of course. BannonsLiver Jun 2025 #13
Because without him this continent would have PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2025 #18
I agree. European contact with the Americas wasinevitable Vogon_Glory Jun 2025 #21
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