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Metaphorical

(2,581 posts)
34. The secret each is struggling to keep
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:31 PM
Jun 2025

Musk bought the election, pure and simple. Musk was not even on the radar for discussion until comparatively late in Trump's campaign, then suddenly he was everywhere. He well exceeded any campaign finance limits, and very likely also suborned not only voters but also critical election officials in key states, not to mention quite possibly having had a hand in corrupting critical tabulators (you don't need to do it nationwide, just a few key areas like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, which were leaning towards Harris). Add in mail-in ballots that simply never got to the counting places in the first place, and you see all of the pieces in place for a stolen election. I honestly wish that the Dems HAD contested the results, but we moved very quickly beyond that point with nary a peep.

Trump is a blackmailer. He has long been at the heart of a pattern where vocal critics have become staunch allies seemingly overnight, of making threatening phone calls (usually through proxies) and of attacking anyone who crosses him. Ordinarily I would not expect Trump to do more than vaguely acknowledge his debt to Musk, yet he all but made the man his co-president. Why? Because Musk holds something profound over him. Musk made it possible for him to throw the election his way, not just in quasi-legal but unethical ways (his support on X) but by rigging the election.Trump actually lost the election.

I've been thinking about the implications of this. We've been there a couple of times in the last few decades. Bush vs. Gore in 2000 was the most obvious, but I think that was probably a genuinely close election. Trump vs. Clinton was dirty tricks and the FBI's last minute October surprise, but Clinton also had run a remarkably lackluster campaign, had a bruising primary against Bernie Sanders, and Trump and Clinton had been trading positions for several weeks before hand. I was bummed, but not surprised, when she lost. However, we have never had a situation where the election results themselves were manipulated, and it is this that I believe Musk facilitated.

We have no provision in the Constitution about what happens with a corrupt election, if it is discovered after the election results are certified. In most states this IS spelled out - the courts usually try the person and if they are found guilty on corruption charges, then typically new elections are scheduled. However, the US Constitution is notoriously silent on this particular state of affairs. Assuming that there is ever a legitimate government again, this may be one of the first things proposed.

Nonetheless, such a revelation would also undermine any legitimacy that he has left. In the immediate term, that doesn't mean much, but it does mean that the chances that will be able to get other backers is low (I think the evidence about how quickly Trump turned on Musk is likely to make it MUCH harder for other deep-pocketed backers to want to support him). This is going to matter in the 2026 elections in particular, because IF the Democrats do manage to stage a comeback (something I think much more likely without Musk injecting his own dirty money into the race) the likelihood that he will be forced to resign by the Senate is considerably higher.

It would mean JD Vance becomes President. I don't particularly like Vance, but I also suspect that at the moment his current policy positions are primarily protective camouflage. Vance is not a syphilitic, drug-addicted, revenge-driven, senile dictator wannabe. He was, in the Senate, a fairly unassuming Republican - conservative, but not overtly crazy. He is not well liked by MAGA, and if he were to succeed Trump, he would likely not have the support of the hard core crazies. If Trump was fired, he would turn on Vance almost immediately. I also suspect that IF he succeeded Trump, Vance would likely clear out the MAGA crazies from the administration, and, as the Trump/Musk feud turns into a bad divorce, will probably also send the Tech Bro Mafia packing. I don't expect him to be a good president, but I cannot in any universe see him being even remotely as bad as Trump is.

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Big LOL!! Bayard Jun 2025 #1
Bookmarked for later. SheltieLover Jun 2025 #2
By now I'd say we're pretty aware flamingdem Jun 2025 #3
Some things require repitition and reinforcement, methinks... yorkster Jun 2025 #6
Repetition, of course... yorkster Jun 2025 #7
"this is the feud that Milton Friedman's America deserves." YES!! Lay it on the doorstep of the house that brought it ! eppur_se_muova Jun 2025 #4
Enjoy your description of the people producing products - machines - software. "Only dividends count" erronis Jun 2025 #24
Why did this article make me think of rzemanfl Jun 2025 #5
Makes me think of Godzilla vs King Kong. BattleRow Jun 2025 #51
Both articles are must reads. Thanks for the links. sop Jun 2025 #8
Yes, I never thought they really liked each other PatSeg Jun 2025 #16
They don't have relationships ToxMarz Jun 2025 #17
Exactly PatSeg Jun 2025 #22
More like "What can I make you do for me." erronis Jun 2025 #26
Especially when it comes to Trump PatSeg Jun 2025 #27
Psychopaths don't like people. They use people and commit crimes against them. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #29
I agree PatSeg Jun 2025 #31
Yes they are textbook and if I was teaching an Abnormal Psych class I would use them as examples. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #33
Two drug addicted narcissistic psychopaths were bound to blow up things including each other. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #28
I Think An Old-Fashioned Dual RobinA Jun 2025 #56
They are cowards. They only like killing people who cannot fight back. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #57
The forgotten part DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #9
Yes it is the dysfunctional love triangle from hell. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #30
The Musk/Silicon Valley (much of it) elitist vision. usonian Jun 2025 #10
There is no honor or loyalty among thieves. SheltieLover Jun 2025 #11
Death is the great equalizer. The poorest and the richest become equally dead. multigraincracker Jun 2025 #12
The rich have more to lose - LATER. dchill Jun 2025 #21
Musk is full of nothing but shit. ananda Jun 2025 #13
Excellent thanks! nt LittleGirl Jun 2025 #14
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2025 #15
I come away from this feeling slightlv Jun 2025 #18
So since you're screwed NJCher Jun 2025 #47
Well, not lay down and enjoy it, as one of those congress critters slightlv Jun 2025 #58
Everyone calls Elon Musk the "richest man in the world" but is it really true? FakeNoose Jun 2025 #19
Forbes and Bloomberg go through the analyses to determine that title. But garbage allegorical oracle Jun 2025 #32
I've often wondered this myself NJCher Jun 2025 #48
To answer your last question: not if they want ACCESS. calimary Jun 2025 #54
KNR and bookmarking for later. niyad Jun 2025 #20
They were both using each other. wnylib Jun 2025 #23
Musk is an idiot. Bluetus Jun 2025 #25
The sun dying or better going red giant is billions of years in the future Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2025 #40
And the cost of building a habitat on Mars is probably 10,000X the cost of Bluetus Jun 2025 #43
The Mars thing NJCher Jun 2025 #49
Trump, Putin and Netanyaho all need each other Bluetus Jun 2025 #52
The secret each is struggling to keep Metaphorical Jun 2025 #34
.... sprinkleeninow Jun 2025 #35
There are some things that are so blatant that there is no excuse for ignoring them. Bluetus Jun 2025 #45
I concur with the bulk of your thesis. Hugin Jun 2025 #36
Thank you...for basically writing out my 2am thoughts FirstLight Jun 2025 #38
I like the way you think. vanlassie Jun 2025 #39
Brilliant analysis - Recommended FakeNoose Jun 2025 #41
Very well put!! Reading more in the morning... FirstLight Jun 2025 #37
It might help NJCher Jun 2025 #50
Defenintly keep us posted! I don't know who will be able to enforce something like this.. FirstLight Jun 2025 #53
this isn't the one I was talking about NJCher Jun 2025 #55
Both are evil monsters of the worst kind dalton99a Jun 2025 #42
This spat's intention is to get shady pants in the oval. Clouds Passing Jun 2025 #44
K&R. Paladin Jun 2025 #46
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