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AloeVera

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62. It was the IDF, per CNN investigation published today.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 02:42 PM
Jun 2025

No surprise.

The denial almost worked but the truth almost always comes out. However of course doubts have been cast and the damage has been done. The damage will aid in plausible deniability the next time it happens - and it will. So this inhumane crime will go on.

A CNN investigation into a deadly incident near an aid distribution site in southern Gaza on Sunday points to the Israeli military opening fire on crowds of Palestinians as they tried to make their way to the fenced enclosure to get food.

More than a dozen eyewitnesses, including those wounded in the attack, said Israeli troops shot at crowds in volleys of gunfire that occurred sporadically through the early hours of Sunday morning. The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), the US and Israeli-backed aid initiative that runs the site, said that Israeli forces were operating in the area during the same period.

Multiple videos geolocated by CNN place the gunfire near a roundabout where hundreds of Palestinians had gathered about half a mile (800 meters) away from the militarized aid site in Tel al-Sultan in Rafah. The designated route to the site along the coast, Al-Rasheed Street, is in an area under the Israeli military’s control and Israeli troops operate at a base nearby.

Weapons experts said the rate of gunfire heard in the footage, as well as images of bullets retrieved from victims, were consistent with machine guns used by the Israeli military that can be mounted on tanks. Multiple eyewitnesses said that they saw gunfire emanating from Israeli tanks nearby.



In addition it should be noted that the Red Cross and the UK-based Medical Aid for Palestinians, many victims suffered direct hits to the head and chest or SHRAPNEL wounds.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/04/middleeast/israel-military-gaza-aid-shooting-intl-invs

It hurts the heart to think about how well-fed and armed soldiers can do this to defenceless, starving human beings.

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So how do you describe what's going on in Gaza? IMO there does seem to be some inhumane dying and... brush Jun 2025 #1
There does. But not at the food distribution center today. Reports of violence there, as the OP shows, were fake. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #6
Food shortages in Gaza did not begin today and it's nothing but obvious that... brush Jun 2025 #23
Your deflection notwithstanding, my post was very explicit and specific. It has to do with the OP and not Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #24
You're saying the default to many is to blame Israel. I purposely... brush Jun 2025 #25
In case you are still unsure how your posts deflect to Israel: Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #30
Again, I blame warmonger Netanyahu. brush Jun 2025 #31
This response is completely inadequate in addressing the issue at hand. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #32
I knew you weren't all bad. You share my thoughts on Netanyahu. brush Jun 2025 #34
At least 31 people killed, 175 wounded. It's a massacre. AloeVera Jun 2025 #2
That didn't age well, did it? Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #4
Well said. 👍 Dave Bowman Jun 2025 #27
That is not much in the way of proof. Eko Jun 2025 #3
Where is the proof of violence happening there? Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #7
Where did I claim that? You are fond of strawman. Eko Jun 2025 #9
That was a rhetorical question. Of course I don't expect you to come up with any proof. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #12
You literally asked me this "Where is the proof of violence happening there?" Eko Jun 2025 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #14
Yes I did. I literally asked you that question. And I expected you to have no answer to it. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #15
Just want to remind you that your rhetorical question was of a position I had not taken. Eko Jun 2025 #16
But you did take a position. A position I rhetorically questioned. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #18
The position I took was that your evidence was not much. Eko Jun 2025 #35
So you did take a position after all. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #59
My position is Eko Jun 2025 #67
Mahalo for this, mad. I believe it. Cha Jun 2025 #5
The most likely cause of the bullet-riddled corpses is an attack by Hamas after the aid was distributed NickB79 Jun 2025 #8
Eyewitnesses contradict that. AloeVera Jun 2025 #17
Proof? Mountainguy Jun 2025 #21
One eye witness claimed there was NAVAL fire NickB79 Jun 2025 #36
So the IDF gunned down dozens of Palestinians at 4am, but then gave out food at 6am? NickB79 Jun 2025 #37
Well.. AloeVera Jun 2025 #38
The thought of a well-fed hamas terrorist ordering about and shooting and stealing from his own people Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #46
The report I saw said it wasn't clear who did the shooting iemanja Jun 2025 #10
Additionally, a Google news search shows only WaPo and AL Jazeera claiming the shooters were Israeli iemanja Jun 2025 #11
Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is controversial thought crime Jun 2025 #19
No, it wasn't Mountainguy Jun 2025 #22
Only if you ignore 70-80 or a hundred Palestinian deaths...then it was peachy. AloeVera Jun 2025 #47
Provide proof the IDF shot them while seeking aid Mountainguy Jun 2025 #48
Don't have to. AloeVera Jun 2025 #49
So you dont know who shot them Mountainguy Jun 2025 #50
Sniped in the head and chest. Died from tank shrapnel. AloeVera Jun 2025 #52
Proof? Mountainguy Jun 2025 #53
Red Cross field hospital. AloeVera Jun 2025 #57
I DID google it. Why didn't YOU? Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #61
Doesn't prove anything Mountainguy Jun 2025 #66
Also see post #62. It was the IDF. AloeVera Jun 2025 #63
No, it was CNN, not IDF Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #65
Machine guns that the IDF has, and Hamas doesn't muriel_volestrangler Jun 2025 #54
So he admits he cant identify the weapon or who fired it Mountainguy Jun 2025 #55
They are attached to tanks. muriel_volestrangler Jun 2025 #56
No weapons, no tanks, no weapons attached to tanks. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author thought crime Jun 2025 #20
Media never learn, do they? mcar Jun 2025 #26
What kind of person obsesses about defending war crimes over and over? Johnny2X2X Jun 2025 #28
Are you referring to the OP? Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #41
Trying really hard to Re writing history Blue Full Moon Jun 2025 #29
By showing the actual surveillance camera footage? Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #40
There is a vocal group Mountainguy Jun 2025 #51
The GHF..... has the backing of the Trump administration and the Israeli government. .... Ping Tung Jun 2025 #33
Neither one of your statements makes a dent in contesting the accuracy of the OP. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #39
My post says that the Trump administration and the Israeli government back the GHF. Ping Tung Jun 2025 #42
It's true, but it's is as relevant to the OP as stating that the Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #43
I find itr very relevant to know the OP's source for his ovservations. Ping Tung Jun 2025 #44
The source for the OP's observation is the security camera recording the event as it happened. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author AloeVera Jun 2025 #60
It was the IDF, per CNN investigation published today. AloeVera Jun 2025 #62
And further into the article: Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #64
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