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Crunchy Frog

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24. That's how I learned to refer to it

Reply to Du916 (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 2, 2025, 11:37 PM

Jun 2025

and it was universally referred to that way during the existence of the Soviet Union. I didn't actually learn that "the" was no longer used until after the full scale war started.

On Twitter it's practically universal that pro russian, pro Putin, anti Ukrainian accounts call it "The Ukraine" and call their capitol city "Kiev". Ukrainians tend to get offended by it.

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The Ukraine's attack on Russia was NOT "Russia's Pearl Harbor." [View all] Du916 Jun 2025 OP

So right. Very excellent point. Hopefully more progressive media will pick up on that. Amaryllis Jun 2025 #1

That is incredibly lazy journalism canetoad Jun 2025 #2

I thought it was a genocide JoseBalow Jun 2025 #3

You are correct. As mentioned above, it's lazy journalism. Liberal In Texas Jun 2025 #4

The true problem happened long ago DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #9

Seems more like FAFO to me KentuckyWoman Jun 2025 #5

Russian Telegram bloggers were the first to use that framing, so yes, it's not helpful Emrys Jun 2025 #6

That guy hoping that russia's response will be the same as America's Crunchy Frog Jun 2025 #27

Don't disagree, but another comment stumpysbear Jun 2025 #7

I went back and forth Du916 Jun 2025 #15

That's how I learned to refer to it Crunchy Frog Jun 2025 #24

I believe it was shortly after the invasion BidenRocks Jun 2025 #18

i grew up hearing people say "the" ukraine; parents, school, etc orleans Jun 2025 #21

Do you speak Russian or Ukrainian? DFW Jun 2025 #30

I nominate this post and analysis BaronChocula Jun 2025 #8

The only similarity is At Dawn They Slept. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #10

Absolutely. It's a war. Sneaky things are fair play in war. Melon Jun 2025 #11

It was much more a Midway type event. The embattled and out numbered U.S. fleet flashman13 Jun 2025 #12

Conclusion: dchill Jun 2025 #13

And freely regurgitates pro russian narratives. Crunchy Frog Jun 2025 #25

Bullies... Godot51 Jun 2025 #14

And the scale is nowhere near Pearl Harbor at all. WarGamer Jun 2025 #16

Russian bloggers seem to be pushing it Kaleva Jun 2025 #28

Not surprising DFW Jun 2025 #31

I knew you'd be mad about it and try to diminish what was a wildly successful operation. BannonsLiver Jun 2025 #34

not mad at all... WarGamer Jun 2025 #35

Whatever you want to call it, Ukraine's action sent dobleremolque Jun 2025 #17

There is no Golden Dome! BidenRocks Jun 2025 #22

The reason for the analogy that I have heard is that... reACTIONary Jun 2025 #19

That makes sense True Dough Jun 2025 #33

I've only seen it referred to that way in a tweet Crunchy Frog Jun 2025 #20

That wasn't the point! Grins Jun 2025 #23

your reasoning is sound Skittles Jun 2025 #26

Not a Pearl Harbor moment at all. It was a Scapa Flow moment, for those versed in naval history. pecosbob Jun 2025 #29

Whatever the true number of aircraft destroyed DFW Jun 2025 #32

I gotta say...I don't care and will be trashing this thread in a moment. n/t elocs Jun 2025 #36

I think the comparison is in regards to a new, relatively untried tactic Torchlight Jun 2025 #37