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GoneOffShore

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46. Interesting but ultimately the piece shows that Rebecca Solnit is correct.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 03:22 PM
Jun 2025
When Trump won the 2016 election—while losing the popular vote—the New York Times seemed obsessed with running features about what Trump voters were feeling and thinking. These pieces treated them as both an exotic species and people it was our job to understand, understand being that word that means both to comprehend and to grant some sort of indulgence to. Now that Trump has lost the 2020 election, the Los Angeles Times has given their editorial page over to letters from Trump voters, who had exactly the sort of predictable things to say we have been hearing for far more than four years, thanks to the New York Times and what came to seem like about 11,000 other news outlets hanging on the every word of every white supremacist they could convince to go on the record.
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The middle ground is not halfway between Nazis and antiracists. The reasonable position is not a compromise between rapists and feminists, slaveowners and abolitionists, Natives and General Crook. The truth is not midway between the liar and the truth-teller. That has to be a factor in all those calls for reaching out and unity. The murderer and his intended victim don't have to agree on what's right. The people who were harmed don't have to reach out to those who did the harming. The people who told the truth don't need to make liars feel better about themselves or what they said. Those who were targeted by this war don't have to do all the peacemaking. Being gracious, issuing invitations -- sure for those who are up to it and see ways to do it constructively -- but not compromising or normalizing hate and discrimination and destruction. If reaching out and finding unity is good, the haters and liars can go find some olive branches and apologies and do the work to leave their will to destroy the rest of us behind. 

Then it begins. The party of hate never had a mandate; they lost the popular vote last time and this time; they may think of themselves as the real Americans and the gatekeepers but we don't have to, and we don't have to enter their gates or play by their rules. We don't have to hate them either, but we don't have to protect them from the consequences of their choices or sell out our principles for their comfort. When you stand on the ground of truth and justice, let others find their way to you. If you stand firm, many will in the end. Not everyone will; that does not change what truth and justice are.”

     ~~ Rebecca Solnit - https://lithub.com/rebecca-solnit-on-not-meeting-nazis-halfway/

I'm not going to meet these feckwits halfway or even a quarter.

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👀 underpants Jun 2025 #1
Was just today wanting to know what an anthropologist thinks, thanks very much for posting. betsuni Jun 2025 #2
Great read, very depressing. These "views" have been created by a few to divide the many. sop Jun 2025 #3
How does someone get so fearful Bettie Jun 2025 #4
They'd be happy to be in prison. Historic NY Jun 2025 #5
I can only imagine how well stocked their gun cabinet is erronis Jun 2025 #6
The wealthiest "neighborhood" in Miami is Fisher Island, known for its extremely high median home sale prices, over $5M. sop Jun 2025 #8
Been there, it sucked ornotna Jun 2025 #26
The most overpriced, least attractive real estate in Miami. sop Jun 2025 #31
That's my question also. patphil Jun 2025 #11
That's what the republicans have been doing Blue Full Moon Jun 2025 #17
This passage stands out to me Sympthsical Jun 2025 #7
Thanks for the link to his earlier article - look forward to reading. Agree that we all need one another erronis Jun 2025 #9
America has always been this way Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #13
Of course Sympthsical Jun 2025 #21
Minorities are not the problem Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #28
You're making an assumption Sympthsical Jun 2025 #32
You are allowed in the fence Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #35
The Suburbs Celerity Jun 2025 #34
Perfect Sympthsical Jun 2025 #37
same with the rest of the world. cab67 Jun 2025 #24
About those full-body, white shieds...just paint the cross red and you're very close to those of the Crusades of old... brush Jun 2025 #10
I'd love to hear some reichwing fucker's account of "trying to understand the other side." Orrex Jun 2025 #12
Wouldn't that be dead silence? erronis Jun 2025 #15
A fountain of illogical bullshit more than likely. paleotn Jun 2025 #20
That's the problem. We want to discuss things rationally. They refuse. paleotn Jun 2025 #19
Afraid you are right: "... and no amount of kumbaya will change that." erronis Jun 2025 #23
Seriously, it only seems to make them madder and dig in deeper. paleotn Jun 2025 #29
I'd be content to see every last one of them all Raptured up tomorrow. Orrex Jun 2025 #45
By refusing to mingle with or even hear from the other side snot Jun 2025 #14
Try talking to those people rationally. paleotn Jun 2025 #22
To be clear, snot Jun 2025 #27
There is only one thing that continued communication with the worst elements of the other side will bring. Efilroft Sul Jun 2025 #39
We keep trying to mingle Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #30
I'd suggest that, generally, snot Jun 2025 #33
What do you want me to know Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #38
I want you to know or at least consider snot Jun 2025 #41
Oh please Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #42
Talking to Trump's most ardent fan base snot Jun 2025 #43
If they were voting for economics Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #44
They have gone full fascist. GoneOffShore Jun 2025 #47
Divide and Conquer. Though it seems odd that the "privileged" class choose to jail themselves. usonian Jun 2025 #16
That terrarium is perfect. erronis Jun 2025 #18
I had earlier found this one, but someone changed Mister Pennybags to his drugged out son Elonicus. usonian Jun 2025 #25
The book is a little pricey Gymbo Jun 2025 #36
I have seen this kind of fear @ a relative's house in N. Central Virginia.... between Mt. Jackson & Woodstock Botany Jun 2025 #40
Interesting but ultimately the piece shows that Rebecca Solnit is correct. GoneOffShore Jun 2025 #46
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