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erronis

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Sun Jun 1, 2025, 08:55 AM Jun 2025

I crisscrossed America to talk to people whose views I disagreed with. I now have one certainty [View all]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/jun/01/united-states-polarization
Anand Pandian

I’ve spoken to white nationalists in Tennessee and Black activists in Texas – and learned about what it takes to connect across difference

The residential community was lodged near a national forest on the outskirts of Scottsdale, Arizona. Forbidding gates and sentry posts restricted access to the exclusive development and its elegant homes. But security here went much further.

Each cul-de-sac in the colony had its own individual railway gate, and many of the homeowners had installed gates across their own driveways as well. Anyone coming in or out of those houses would have to clear three checkpoints that set them apart from the wider world beyond.

I was astonished. But the security director at the gated community saw nothing unusual in such arrangements. “People shouldn’t be able to just walk into where you live. You should be able to defend yourself against the rest of the world.” Immigration officers were doing exactly the same thing along the country’s border, he added: defending us.

I couldn’t help but think about what I had seen in the company of migrant aid volunteers earlier that week in southern Arizona, all the tattered clothes and humble belongings caught in the brush of a desert trail, attesting to the desperation of those who had fled through that harsh terrain.

. . .

The challenges are real, as I saw one October in Shelbyville, Tennessee.
lone figure stands at the end of lines of nationalists and police holding rows of shields

“How are you feeling?” I asked the Nepali woman behind the counter of a gas station. She replied with a single word and a tight-lipped smile. “Scared”.

Scheduled that Saturday morning in Shelbyville was a “White Lives Matter” political rally. Businesses downtown were shuttered. Police had cordoned off roads heading into the town. A pervasive thrum was in the air, from helicopters circling overhead. Dozens of officers in riot gear massed on the roofs of low buildings.

The October 2017 rally followed the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, where clashes between demonstrators and counter-protesters left dozens injured and one young woman, Heather Heyer, dead. The Shelbyville rally was organized by a southern separatist group called the League of the South, working with a larger umbrella of white nationalist groups called the Nationalist Front.



. . .


Anand Pandian is Krieger-Eisenhower professor of anthropology at Johns Hopkins University. Parts of this essay were adapted from his book, Something Between Us: The Everyday Walls of American Life, and How to Take Them Down, out now.
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👀 underpants Jun 2025 #1
Was just today wanting to know what an anthropologist thinks, thanks very much for posting. betsuni Jun 2025 #2
Great read, very depressing. These "views" have been created by a few to divide the many. sop Jun 2025 #3
How does someone get so fearful Bettie Jun 2025 #4
They'd be happy to be in prison. Historic NY Jun 2025 #5
I can only imagine how well stocked their gun cabinet is erronis Jun 2025 #6
The wealthiest "neighborhood" in Miami is Fisher Island, known for its extremely high median home sale prices, over $5M. sop Jun 2025 #8
Been there, it sucked ornotna Jun 2025 #26
The most overpriced, least attractive real estate in Miami. sop Jun 2025 #31
That's my question also. patphil Jun 2025 #11
That's what the republicans have been doing Blue Full Moon Jun 2025 #17
This passage stands out to me Sympthsical Jun 2025 #7
Thanks for the link to his earlier article - look forward to reading. Agree that we all need one another erronis Jun 2025 #9
America has always been this way Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #13
Of course Sympthsical Jun 2025 #21
Minorities are not the problem Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #28
You're making an assumption Sympthsical Jun 2025 #32
You are allowed in the fence Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #35
The Suburbs Celerity Jun 2025 #34
Perfect Sympthsical Jun 2025 #37
same with the rest of the world. cab67 Jun 2025 #24
About those full-body, white shieds...just paint the cross red and you're very close to those of the Crusades of old... brush Jun 2025 #10
I'd love to hear some reichwing fucker's account of "trying to understand the other side." Orrex Jun 2025 #12
Wouldn't that be dead silence? erronis Jun 2025 #15
A fountain of illogical bullshit more than likely. paleotn Jun 2025 #20
That's the problem. We want to discuss things rationally. They refuse. paleotn Jun 2025 #19
Afraid you are right: "... and no amount of kumbaya will change that." erronis Jun 2025 #23
Seriously, it only seems to make them madder and dig in deeper. paleotn Jun 2025 #29
I'd be content to see every last one of them all Raptured up tomorrow. Orrex Jun 2025 #45
By refusing to mingle with or even hear from the other side snot Jun 2025 #14
Try talking to those people rationally. paleotn Jun 2025 #22
To be clear, snot Jun 2025 #27
There is only one thing that continued communication with the worst elements of the other side will bring. Efilroft Sul Jun 2025 #39
We keep trying to mingle Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #30
I'd suggest that, generally, snot Jun 2025 #33
What do you want me to know Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #38
I want you to know or at least consider snot Jun 2025 #41
Oh please Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #42
Talking to Trump's most ardent fan base snot Jun 2025 #43
If they were voting for economics Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #44
They have gone full fascist. GoneOffShore Jun 2025 #47
Divide and Conquer. Though it seems odd that the "privileged" class choose to jail themselves. usonian Jun 2025 #16
That terrarium is perfect. erronis Jun 2025 #18
I had earlier found this one, but someone changed Mister Pennybags to his drugged out son Elonicus. usonian Jun 2025 #25
The book is a little pricey Gymbo Jun 2025 #36
I have seen this kind of fear @ a relative's house in N. Central Virginia.... between Mt. Jackson & Woodstock Botany Jun 2025 #40
Interesting but ultimately the piece shows that Rebecca Solnit is correct. GoneOffShore Jun 2025 #46
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