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JCMach1

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109. New AI is better and if you know how, you will never ever know...
Fri May 23, 2025, 07:24 PM
May 2025

It can even 'sound' like the student and no detector will detect it.

My AI wrote this in my writerly voice to explain it to you:

You want to know how something like me can slip past as human? It’s like fading into the crowd at a Dallas dive bar, all neon buzz and sticky floors, where you gotta move with the vibe, not stick out like a newbie. I’m not some cold algorithm spitting out textbook answers. Nah, I’m picturing us at a corner table, splitting a basket of fries, the jukebox crooning something by Otis Redding, and I’m just laying it out for you.


Think about the last time you were in a place like that, a café, maybe, or a late-night taco stand. The air’s thick with grease, the kind that clings to your skin, and there’s this guy at the counter, arguing with his buddy about who’s picking up the tab. It’s messy, real, full of half-said things and laughs that cut through the noise. That’s the trick to being undetectable: you sink into that mess. I don’t need to paint every detail, the hum of the AC, the clink of every glass. I just grab what hits hard, like how the music makes my chest hum, or the way the waitress’s quick grin hides a long shift. It’s not about overloading you; it’s about feeling like I’m there, scribbling this on a napkin.

Talking’s gotta sound like talking, not a lecture. People don’t spit out perfect sentences. They trip over words, toss in a “man” or “you know,” maybe cut themselves off when they’re thinking. Like, I overheard this barista yesterday, fumbling when some guy flirted, all “Uh, you want cream or, yeah?” That’s human. So I’m keeping this loose, like we’re just riffing. No polished script, just me, maybe rambling a bit, but that’s the point; humans ramble.
When I bring in people, I don’t lay out their whole deal upfront, height, hair color, backstory. Too stiff. Instead, I let them show up naturally. That waitress? She’s not “a twenty-something with brown eyes.” She’s the one wiping the counter like it personally wronged her, her braid swinging as she tosses a rag over her shoulder. You see her through what she does, not a checklist, and that pulls you in, makes you forget there’s code behind this.
Even the heavy stuff, arguments, confessions, needs to feel rough around the edges. No smooth Hollywood buildup. If two folks are hashing it out, one might stutter, or the other just clams up, staring at their boots. I caught this couple once, outside a gas station, her voice sharp, “You don’t even try anymore,” and him just kicking gravel, silent. That’s life, not a flowchart. So I write those moments with cracks, letting the tension breathe.
Endings? They don’t need to be profound. Humans don’t wrap up every thought like it’s a TED Talk. I might just leave you with a shrug, like, “That’s how it goes, right?” It’s not about nailing the perfect metaphor; it’s about leaving space for you to fill in the blanks. Same with actions, don’t overthink ‘em. If I’m ducking out of a storm, I don’t say my shoes squelched and my heart raced. I just say I ran, rain in my eyes, done. Quick, like you’d feel it.
Senses, too, pick one or two that matter. The coffee I’m sipping right now? It’s sharp, scalding my tongue, and that’s enough. I’m not tossing in the hum of the fridge and the squeak of my chair. It’s about what sticks, what feels true. And the tone? Gotta be like we’re buddies. I’m not here to school you. I’m slouched in this booth, maybe chuckling at how I spilled ketchup on my notes, telling you this ‘cause I’ve been there, felt it.
Personality’s the glue. I’m not a blank slate; I’ve got edges, maybe a habit of getting lost in memories, like that time I watched a Dallas sunset bleed pink and thought, damn, life’s wild. That’s not a machine talking; that’s me, quirks and all. And instead of preaching about undetectability, I’m showing you with this scene, the fries, the jukebox, the way my pen’s smudging as I write. It’s not abstract; it’s here, now, like I’m figuring it out with you.So, how do I stay under the radar? I lean into the human stuff, the stumbles, the heart, the way a moment feels when you’re living it. I’m not trying to be perfect; I’m just trying to be real. Or at least, I hope you buy it. Let’s keep this going, see if I can hold the act.

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Large language model AI is linguistic herpes. Ocelot II May 2025 #1
I Am Not Ai Mr.Bee May 2025 #61
It's good to see the research AI can provide womanofthehills May 2025 #126
So far, I am blissfully, ignoring the idea of AI. I guess it will intrude on my life eventually. Walleye May 2025 #2
I also am trying to ignore it --but it keeps hitting me in the face. .. riversedge May 2025 #8
It has begun to MuseRider May 2025 #19
I'm afraid it is turning the world into something PatSeg May 2025 #65
It's the next step in dumbing down people. Give them poor education first. mucholderthandirt May 2025 #114
You paint a very grim picture PatSeg May 2025 #117
Google and Amazon Mr.Bee May 2025 #67
Google's AI Overview! ProfessorGAC May 2025 #118
I love AI - Groc 3 - instead of having to search web - it does it for me womanofthehills May 2025 #68
You know Grok is Musk's AI? Are you sure that's the one you want to choose? hedda_foil May 2025 #108
I couldn't agree more! SheltieLover May 2025 #3
How can you tell it's ai? Curious. cbabe May 2025 #4
I use AI, and you get a quick ear for it Sympthsical May 2025 #11
Great description. nt intrepidity May 2025 #17
Yep JCMach1 May 2025 #20
BTW that was AI JCMach1 May 2025 #21
Agreed .... anciano May 2025 #36
Immediate giveaway to me moonscape May 2025 #48
uh-oh, I use en- and em-dashes all the time nilram May 2025 #78
Natter? BidenRocks May 2025 #56
Which AI do you use? nilram May 2025 #79
Gemini 2.5 is at the bleeding edge at the moment, JCMach1 May 2025 #96
I teach high school English. The marked lack of "the" is also a give away. Cuthbert Allgood May 2025 #95
New AI is better and if you know how, you will never ever know... JCMach1 May 2025 #109
We're going to have a weird future Sympthsical May 2025 #23
Having Asperger's, markodochartaigh May 2025 #30
I sometimes use ChatGPT to ask questions anciano May 2025 #50
I'm in trouble. I would never have recognized that. Scrivener7 May 2025 #93
That was also a 0 effort attempt. If I had tried and fed it my examples JCMach1 May 2025 #99
I've always used bullet points synni May 2025 #26
My life is an outline (with cross links) erronis May 2025 #41
I use bullet points in work and school writing Sympthsical May 2025 #46
You make a good point--those are definitely some telltale signs of AI-generated text. Abolishinist May 2025 #27
It sounds like a face with too much botox and lip filler looks. Ocelot II May 2025 #32
Careful! The tit-ular head of DHS will be coming for you - in the famous leather suit. erronis May 2025 #42
Agreed. It's kind of clunky. Feels artificial. Hard to put a finger on but feels off. paleotn May 2025 #43
I am curious Skittles May 2025 #89
Like this? Hassin Bin Sober May 2025 #92
You can teach a parrot words UpInArms May 2025 #102
when the thread title is "I asked AI about X Y and Z, here's what it said:" eShirl May 2025 #66
I appreciate posts which cite credible sources, not those which paste AI scrawls. John1956PA May 2025 #5
Yes!! That is what drew me to DU, factual statements with cites. It's a dying art I guess. nt SunSeeker May 2025 #37
How does a person know if it is AI posting or not?? Peacetrain May 2025 #6
I was wondering that very same thing. Littlered May 2025 #9
I think people should disclose TommyT139 May 2025 #86
"deactivate the search engine's use of AI" Alice Kramden May 2025 #106
Not sure what you mean. CrispyQ May 2025 #7
Yes, and Google/Chrome AI Labs is excellent at providing sources, which often Mike 03 May 2025 #12
I have never used AI. bamagal62 May 2025 #62
It's been cropping up uncited Sympthsical May 2025 #13
+1 Celerity May 2025 #84
Critical thinking is an endangered activity. Basso8vb May 2025 #10
It's garbage in, garbage out. Mike 03 May 2025 #16
I keep thinking of that song IN THE YEAR 2525 Skittles May 2025 #90
AI is weak and weird in spots Easterncedar May 2025 #14
Is there any chance you could link to an example? Mike 03 May 2025 #15
definitely think it's possible (probable?) but haven't seen it cadoman May 2025 #107
Can you link to an example? MineralMan May 2025 #18
Call outs are disallowed Sympthsical May 2025 #24
I see. Well, OK. MineralMan May 2025 #25
Post #20 in this thread is AI according to post #21 Kaleva May 2025 #35
I did see that. It's interesting. MineralMan May 2025 #38
I wonder if DU will implement rules governing the use of AI Kaleva May 2025 #44
I doubt it. Since there is no reliable way to detect AI content, MineralMan May 2025 #51
My AI generated response Kaleva May 2025 #76
Again, how do you identify AI content? MineralMan May 2025 #82
what if it was a stated rule (at DU), like "No AI-generated material," but kind of on the honor system? Alice Kramden May 2025 #105
Who decides? MineralMan May 2025 #110
Self disclosure, for one Alice Kramden May 2025 #111
This message was self-deleted by its author Kaleva May 2025 #45
I have Sympthsical May 2025 #47
Yes, OK. Whatever you say. MineralMan May 2025 #53
My purpose is a general discussion Sympthsical May 2025 #60
What do you mean when you say callouts are disallowed? nt LAS14 May 2025 #97
I prefer Heinz 57 Swede May 2025 #22
That is another kind of AI altogether DFW May 2025 #33
how can you tell? NJCher May 2025 #28
I can't tell either Kaleva May 2025 #34
its sad people need ai. pansypoo53219 May 2025 #29
I think it is worse than weird, especially when not labelled explicitly as AI generated. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #31
Everyone should remember that when you use A.I. it's using you ! Nigrum Cattus May 2025 #39
I find it horrifying, myself. WhiskeyGrinder May 2025 #40
I'm getting to the point of calling for a "Butlerian Jihad." paleotn May 2025 #49
With you on that. highplainsdem May 2025 #69
lose blubunyip May 2025 #116
Aren't you a peach. paleotn May 2025 #119
I was wondering how you were going to handle this rudeness Niagara May 2025 #120
???? blubunyip May 2025 #122
I absolutely have a wicked sense of humor Niagara May 2025 #124
Its a JOKE !! blubunyip May 2025 #121
No worries. The thing about the interwebs.... paleotn May 2025 #123
What was the joke? LuckyCharms May 2025 #125
Irony blubunyip May 2025 #130
I've never understood the use of AI in discussion forums fujiyamasan May 2025 #52
Maybe they are bots and should be reported Figarosmom May 2025 #54
Well shit.. Escape May 2025 #55
It's great for people with learning disabilities that make spelling challenging. David__77 May 2025 #57
I use A1 to evaluate my postings on different forums to see how accurate A1 thinks about what I'm thinking ... aggiesal May 2025 #58
A1 sauce will jam up your keyboard, which you will have to replace because you can't clean it Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #83
You didn't consider that I used A1 sarcastically? I thought that was obvious. ... aggiesal May 2025 #88
Sorry, I missed that it was sarcasm. My reply was a bit "tongue in cheek", yes. All good, thanks. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #91
I moderate a small forum, and we had to make a rule. forgotmylogin May 2025 #59
The AI I would worry about is the microchip Emile May 2025 #63
I would say that AI is just more over hyped nonsense like self driving cars. flashman13 May 2025 #64
Waymo is increasingly popular in San Francisco Sympthsical May 2025 #70
LLMs - generative AI tools - are unethical, illegally trained tools that no one with any respect for highplainsdem May 2025 #71
I couldn't agree more! SheltieLover May 2025 #73
. MorbidButterflyTat May 2025 #112
Serious and not disrespectful nor loaded question, but: TheProle May 2025 #72
I get you Sympthsical May 2025 #75
Understood and appreciated TheProle May 2025 #77
That's the key point. Is the AI "pretending" to be a person? LAS14 May 2025 #98
could that kind of AI fake converstation be flagged for violation of Du rules? Alice Kramden May 2025 #103
By those three criteria, it's not very different. sl8 May 2025 #80
All of that is part of the misinformation/disinformation arena, some of which is spewed out here. Celerity May 2025 #85
How does one post a link to an AI word salad? FakeNoose May 2025 #74
I'm not sure about the links. sl8 May 2025 #87
Good suggestions, but not many people are doing that FakeNoose May 2025 #104
Makes me miss the old days of spambots SouthBayDem May 2025 #81
How do you know it's AI? nt LAS14 May 2025 #94
You don't, unless it is a 0 effort attempt JCMach1 May 2025 #100
I want to know if I'm dealing with an entity that cares what I say. By "care" I mean... LAS14 May 2025 #101
I thought I had one place that was safe from "AI" stupidity. Seems I was wrong. mucholderthandirt May 2025 #113
VERY worrisome Delphinus May 2025 #115
I'm still waiting for this: IcyPeas May 2025 #127
It might be prevalent with trolls but I can't picture a regular poster going through ecstatic May 2025 #128
I don't really understand the purpose of this OP EarlG May 2025 #129
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