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karynnj

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35. Whenever they do these comparisons, they ignore

Wed May 21, 2025, 04:41 PM

May 2025

that the cohort of people is different.

2024 consists of people age 18 through 21 who were not included in the 2020 election as they were too young. Additionally, the 26 to 29 year olds in the 2020 group have aged beyond 30 in the 2024 election.

Could it be that the kids who transitioned from elementary school to high school - most of the first group are different from the latter group (now 30 to 34) who transitioned from elementary school to high school in the Obama years might be very different.

I know they ALWAYS compare by fixed ages groups, but especially if they want to speak of losing people, comparing the SAME cohort as they age makes more sense.

I am old enough to remember when the oldest voters were Democrats and spoke of FDR.

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Democrats Are Losing Young People [View all] applegrove May 2025 OP

It's the social media JBTaurus83 May 2025 #1

Yes. It is also financial anxiety. Regression analysis applegrove May 2025 #4

Right. H2O Man May 2025 #49

Oh social media is a big part of it. Particularly right applegrove May 2025 #52

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man May 2025 #57

Social media is a huge part of the manipulation of the applegrove May 2025 #59

Interesting. H2O Man May 2025 #62

Young people were texted anti-trans stuff. Even on DU applegrove May 2025 #66

Right. H2O Man May 2025 #81

What a bunch of bullshit! RB77 May 2025 #79

Read this. applegrove May 2025 #80

Young people? thought crime May 2025 #90

Dems are poor at media, online or not. Tetrachloride May 2025 #61

Entirely. Social media will end up as the weapon that destroyed this nation misanthrope May 2025 #64

No, it is not. vanessa_ca May 2025 #65

You speak LOUDLY for me LearnedHand May 2025 #69

Thank you. vanessa_ca May 2025 #76

Unfortunately, mostly due to historic oppression, black men are particularly susceptible to the manly-man appeal. . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #2

Yes that too. Euphemisms for submissiveness in women applegrove May 2025 #5

Huh? TnDem May 2025 #6

Financial anxiety makes people vote with passion rather than reason. applegrove May 2025 #18

I am thinking of 1947 Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #22

No TnDem May 2025 #24

Indeed they are traits of SOME men and it cuts across racial lines. You miss the point and the history Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #34

re" "the point" TnDem May 2025 #44

Simple answers go nowhere. My post goes deeper. Your post begs the question. Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #46

Actually, what your post does TnDem May 2025 #48

Again you beg the question. Why don't they respect, don't like? are the real questions Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #55

Testosterone has no monopoly on logic. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #23

Dems lost 10% of young black voters under 30 and 16% applegrove May 2025 #41

They voted for Gallego JI7 May 2025 #56

Most black men still voted for Kamala Harris JI7 May 2025 #10

the problem is we depend on the Black and LatinX communitites to cover the failure of white communities cadoman May 2025 #63

Thank you. I'm so sick of this shit. Black men got nothing to do with this shit. Trump is a white people's problem. Solomon May 2025 #101

The appeal is to B.See May 2025 #40

Yes, the campaign made it a broad appeal, their mindset is not really manly, and they are whiny and unqualified. . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #42

Well, qualified to be B.See May 2025 #54

Many of those young voters aren't switching to the republicans Fiendish Thingy May 2025 #3

Right VanceFan May 2025 #8

With catastrophic climate change coming, there is no hope Kaleva May 2025 #15

They have just succeeded in a self-fulfilling prophecy. Congratulations to them. JohnSJ May 2025 #16

What are their values ? And many of these men DID vote for Trump JI7 May 2025 #11

And Harris got 4% less of the female vote than Biden did in 2020. elocs May 2025 #12

We can't RJ-MacReady May 2025 #29

And it will only get worse as blue states may lose 10 or more electoral votes elocs May 2025 #97

Although there were 12 million more eligible voters in 2024 Fiendish Thingy May 2025 #36

Yes, and that's sad. We have too many complacent, non-voters elocs May 2025 #96

I'm not sure complacency is this issue Fiendish Thingy May 2025 #104

Complacent in the sense that why weren't women fired up to elect Harris? elocs May 2025 #108

Also - they see all our money going to war womanofthehills May 2025 #67

An ossified leadership with no new ideas or policies would do this uponit7771 May 2025 #7

What new ideas or policies do they want ? JI7 May 2025 #13

Most of them did not vote for Trump, they stayed home. Nt Fiendish Thingy May 2025 #37

If they didn't vote when there was a clear difference JI7 May 2025 #50

Claiming to know with certainty the reason young people stayed home is part of the problem Fiendish Thingy May 2025 #68

One of the reasons was clearly that they were ok with Trump JI7 May 2025 #72

Clearly? Fiendish Thingy May 2025 #75

No, the civil rights movement and what they boycotted JI7 May 2025 #84

Those "shit people" are the largest untapped pool of voters in the country Fiendish Thingy May 2025 #89

They are shit people that want their ass kissed JI7 May 2025 #94

Dems are almost certain to retake the house in a blue wave in the 2026 midterms Fiendish Thingy May 2025 #103

I didn't disparage young voters. My comments are about all people JI7 May 2025 #105

Young people who didn't vote are the largest untapped pool of voters in the nation Fiendish Thingy May 2025 #107

That's never going to happen JI7 May 2025 #109

After the revolution everything will be nice, everyone young forever and dominating elections for generations. betsuni May 2025 #110

The threat of losing all their rights with a Trump victory wasn't enough to motivate them Kaleva May 2025 #17

Correct because people don't understand dictatorships in the US, no perspective uponit7771 May 2025 #85

From the 2024 election. HOW DO THEY FEEL NOW? hlthe2b May 2025 #9

If they are that stupid, which based on this OP they seem to be, then they have no one to blame for the JohnSJ May 2025 #14

Curious. Do you converse with younger generations? cachukis May 2025 #38

Yes, I sure do, and they can't be all painted with one brush either, because they don't all speak with the same JohnSJ May 2025 #45

No question. cachukis May 2025 #71

Very impressive cachukis. JohnSJ May 2025 #74

Joe Rogan and they watch Fox News. It's young white men. kerry-is-my-prez May 2025 #19

It's not just white men but yes the reason is the same. And they are becoming religious also JI7 May 2025 #20

I was a social worker who worked with almost all women. kerry-is-my-prez May 2025 #26

Most young people do not True Blue American May 2025 #27

young people don't watch TV news to begin with pstokely May 2025 #106

It's because the Dems aren't fighting the GOP synni May 2025 #21

It has nothing to do with this. JI7 May 2025 #28

I agree. It never is that straight forward. JohnSJ May 2025 #47

It's because of widespread propaganda. A small group is angry at the Dems for not speaking out enough. kerry-is-my-prez May 2025 #31

I don't think it's young people Tree Lady May 2025 #25

Part the 100th Redleg May 2025 #30

So we should ignore changes in how people vote? That makes applegrove May 2025 #43

I did not say that. Redleg May 2025 #111

Wasn't the total vote total several million less than doc03 May 2025 #32

I need to see a trend D_Master81 May 2025 #33

I think you are underestimating the damage that has been done, and will be done in the next 4 years. The JohnSJ May 2025 #51

Whenever they do these comparisons, they ignore karynnj May 2025 #35

Sanders has led them to believe that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans and everyone needs to... W_HAMILTON May 2025 #39

it is damning all of us. That type of thinking has brought us to where we are today. JohnSJ May 2025 #53

TY. Exactly, John... We were There and saw Cha May 2025 #78

Done. We are definitely on the same page Cha. JohnSJ May 2025 #83

The damage and polarization will last for a long time. betsuni May 2025 #58

Does Sanders ever hold those rallies in his own state ? JI7 May 2025 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2025 #112

The problem isn't with young people, per se. Basso8vb May 2025 #60

All two parties are losing young people. DJ Synikus Makisimus May 2025 #70

Well Then.. the "young Voters".. are in Danger Cha May 2025 #77

You are so right Cha. They messed up in a big way, but I guess they can put those tiny screws in Apple Iphones JohnSJ May 2025 #82

Aloha Join, sorry I Cha May 2025 #87

No problem Cha. We are on the same page. JohnSJ May 2025 #91

Thanks, John... They're trying to Destroy America. . Cha May 2025 #92

I don't like being too pessimistic, but what happened was a perfect storm against Democracy, and I think JohnSJ May 2025 #93

I don't like it, either... always looking for Cha May 2025 #95

Technocracy won't cut it. David__77 May 2025 #86

3 democratic congressmen died in office so far this year Terry_M May 2025 #88

Do you think congresspeople are anointed rather than voted in by their constituents? W_HAMILTON May 2025 #113

Thanks for the opening. Terry_M May 2025 #114

"They come in via primaries that are handled by the super engaged tiny minority" W_HAMILTON May 2025 #115

Yes. Their fault, absolutely Terry_M May 2025 #116

Older people too. nt RandiFan1290 May 2025 #98

Losing young people was an own goal for the Democrats AZProgressive May 2025 #99

No, people are losing Democrats and gaining Republicans. I'm sure they'll be very happy together. betsuni May 2025 #100

Corporatists vs fascists Johnny2X2X May 2025 #102