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JohnSJ

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48. It isn't a question of blame, it is a question of what happened. Young people have never been a reliable
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:40 AM
May 2025

voting group.

As for older demographic, at least in the demographic today, they absolutely vote. Problem is that their votes are usually more republican.

While every vote counts, today it is the independents who will determine the election, and those in the swing states.

Perhaps the best example is what happened in the swing states in 2016.

In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while in those same critical swing staters Jill Stein received 1% of the vote.

It didn't take much, but it made all the difference.

A similar thing occurred in 2000 with Nader intentionally working to encourage people in critical states not to vote Democratic, because he stupidly impressed that there was "no difference between Democrats and republicans". A completely asinine statement, just based on the Supreme Court we have today.

Just look at Supreme Court justices that Democrats nominated verses republicans.

In 2024 Latinos and labor split the vote, and while Harris did get most of the Women votes, the turnout was less than anticipated. Last but not least the protesters on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, especially in the midwest swing states did not vote Democratic, even though it was very clear that Harris would NOT have done what trump said he was going to do. Harris made it clear:

1. Ceasefire
2. Release all hostages
3. Rebuild Gaza
4. Back to the negotiations for a two-state solution.

The result of the 2024 election has insured the SC is lost for at least a generation, and the damage trump is doing and will do for the next four years will be very hard to reverse.

and while the whole country will pay the price, the highest price will be paid by the young people. Those Rogan fan boys are going to be paying the piper for a long time for listening and giving credibility to fools like Rogan.











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BAD MOVE: Chasstev365 May 2025 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Melon May 2025 #2
Agree. choie May 2025 #3
It's not only his election that's being "overturned". He's choosing to *make* this about himself rather than a LauraInLA May 2025 #9
Agree. MorbidButterflyTat May 2025 #11
playing well with others is part of what the fucking problem is Skittles May 2025 #21
"Playing well with others", like everything else, may be a benefit or a deficit. You're not wrong, but it's still LauraInLA May 2025 #34
Skittles I couldn't recommend your post enough! choie May 2025 #41
Young people have already sealed their fate with their refusal to JohnSJ May 2025 #6
You can post till you are blue in the face, and not enough people talk about voter apathy. 58Sunliner May 2025 #27
and that won't change until the people who actually are hurt by these policies get off their butt and vote, and JohnSJ May 2025 #30
What about the old people who voted Democratic in 2000, 2016 and 2024 PufPuf23 May 2025 #47
It isn't a question of blame, it is a question of what happened. Young people have never been a reliable JohnSJ May 2025 #48
So if the rules were broken and a woman got screwed out of the position...it's just too bad? tritsofme May 2025 #8
I'd be willing to bet that 9 out of 10 Mountainguy May 2025 #16
There isn't any evidence that young voters care about this Kaleva May 2025 #20
Trump made gains with young voters in 2024 Kaleva May 2025 #19
Yes, dumb move BoRaGard May 2025 #23
Public figures they trust telling them Democrats are corrupt, bribed by oligarchs and billionaires and donors, betsuni May 2025 #25
Exactly. H2O Man May 2025 #44
Young people don't care about David Hogg Mountainguy May 2025 #46
And you know this exactly HOW? Jilly_in_VA May 2025 #51
Is this gonna Traildogbob May 2025 #4
Both Sides... Not Cool. That's what got Mump Cha May 2025 #5
Exactly, Cha. That was the first head slapper he put out . Both sides. Nixie May 2025 #7
Hey Aloha, Nixie... Cha May 2025 #10
Thanks for this, Cha! Great post. Nixie May 2025 #13
Yes Kaylin Free's Bio is Cha May 2025 #14
He can do something else. He was hogging up too much of the spotlight. n/t valleyrogue May 2025 #12
And not in a good way... yorkster May 2025 #15
It's not the job of anyone at DNC to "reshape the party" Mountainguy May 2025 #17
Bad move ibegurpard May 2025 #18
Hogg's political career Lullybuy May 2025 #22
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 #36
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 #49
Despite Hogg's attempts, as well as the media, to center this revote on himself Docreed2003 May 2025 #24
The timing of this seems suspicious 🤨 SocialDemocrat61 May 2025 #26
Will Hogg go quietly into the night? cachukis May 2025 #28
I agree with Hogg's goal, I think his strategy is divisive, and I think his victimization is disappointing. CincyDem May 2025 #29
You left out Malcolm Kenyatta JustAnotherGen May 2025 #31
This is why democrats lose. nt Autumn May 2025 #32
Nice headline. Makes it sound like Hogg did something bad when it was procedural travelingthrulife May 2025 #33
The rules of the Democratic Party need to be complied with LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 #35
While I'm not a Hogg fan, I feel he will be revengeful if he's ousted Polybius May 2025 #37
It will be an election that involves all the prospective candidates, because the process was screwed up, JohnSJ May 2025 #38
Like we want to be like Repugs and let one man radical noodle May 2025 #42
I'm not saying to bend the rules for him Polybius May 2025 #43
Well, he may radical noodle May 2025 #45
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2025 #39
Well Hi JJ!!! Interesting....I have the same initials? Are GP6971 May 2025 #40
This is why democrats keep losing pinkstarburst May 2025 #50
Where did they pull that out of? Emile May 2025 #52
Dumb move on the DNC's part. The timing is very suspicious and will definiterly be viewed that way by young voters who KPN May 2025 #53
Look, I am a very old Dem (almost 81) Jilly_in_VA May 2025 #54
Do you have a source re: Hogg "both sides" arguments? KPN May 2025 #55
So what happened exactly Samael13 May 2025 #56
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