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Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
68. Ummm... perhaps not. Gasp.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 12:53 PM
Apr 2025

It is your grossly uninformed description of the origins and the accent of the man you commented on that was your point. You made it pretty clear, and, in the face of what you already committed to print, attempting to disavow it now is transparently disingenuous, awkward and ridiculous. Naturally, it didn't stop you from accusing me. Figures.

And now, the real point, which you are trying to avoid like fire: the man who was arrested is not the one who provoked the confrontation. The likelihood of him not being a protester is yet another deflection: he was not the cause of the confrontation. The confrontation was a response to the blatantly antisemitic targeting of (likely his) place of worship by the provocative action of a combative group of outsiders. Are you not clear on that yet? It will be up to NYPD and due process of law, not your conjectures, that will determine the nature of the man's actions. The combative displays of antisemitic attitudes by a loud and disruptive outside group targeting the local place of worship, on the other hand, is self-evident.

Of course, it was already brought to your attention that the arrest you have described has nothing to do wit Ben Gvir, and it occurred in an area of Brooklyn some ten miles away, and at a different time of day than the the Ben Gvir visit. But referencing a wrong event on a wrong day at a wrong place for the wrong reason is not a deflection, right?

For my part, I can't think of why decent people would NOT be outraged and offended by the aforementioned antisemitic protesters.

Before I dismiss the rest of your post as yet another failed attempt at deflection, a few further matters of fact: Ben Gvir's visit of a Syrian Jewish synagogue, whether or not it is besides the point, is not a fact: it is at best a misunderstanding of a fact. Ben Gvir never set foot anywhere near the Syrian synangogue targeted by the Jew-hating group of protesters in question. And check out your excerpt tags. Probably an honest error, but they appear to be in the wrong place. Makes things unnecessarily confusing, as if the rest of your post already isn't.

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This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Apr 2025 #1
Sad Starlight27 Apr 2025 #2
I agree. red dog 1 Apr 2025 #27
I wonder if this will make the news. Looks like a very scary situation, even the police officer looks scared Pisces Apr 2025 #3
Only one policeman against all those angry nen? ShazzieB Apr 2025 #11
I saw it on the news yesterday Demovictory9 Apr 2025 #93
They got one thing right: All of them are a waste of semen !!! SamKnause Apr 2025 #4
so so much hate around us. riversedge Apr 2025 #5
There is, and too many people use others hate to justify their own EdmondDantes_ Apr 2025 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2025 #6
And Good Lucj to you too!!! GP6971 Apr 2025 #9
Why wasn't anyone arrested? Even if she is a pro Palestine supporter, why did the police allow these men to assault her? tulipsandroses Apr 2025 #7
That's the real take-away. Palestinian protesters lives don't matter to Jews/MAGAs/Nazis Jit423 Apr 2025 #18
Ain't that the truth! AloeVera Apr 2025 #29
"Real Terrorists"? Are Not Hamas, and Hezbollah real terrorists, too? electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #99
Because she had a scarf on? What a bunch of absolute dolts. n/t valleyrogue Apr 2025 #8
It's a microsm of the same intelligence challenged mentality Uncle Joe Apr 2025 #78
This is horrible, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #10
The middle east comes to America. 1WorldHope Apr 2025 #12
Incredible amount of antisemitism on that thread. Mosby Apr 2025 #13
I don't know what you are referring to? All I saw in the video was a group of men terrorizing a woman and a cop. Pisces Apr 2025 #16
No, the video is accurate Mosby Apr 2025 #19
It's self explanatory, a mob of "men " are illegally questionseverything Apr 2025 #31
That's because the media have only just started reporting this... Violet_Crumble Apr 2025 #86
How about commenting on the anti-Arab hate crime. choie Apr 2025 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Apr 2025 #41
I was born Jewish. I'm I supposed to be proud looking at this??? Intractable Apr 2025 #42
Grow up Starlight27 Apr 2025 #87
That was truly Ugly....... alittlelark Apr 2025 #14
Context Mosby Apr 2025 #15
I don't think this excuses the mob harassing 1 woman. Pisces Apr 2025 #17
No it doesnt. Mosby Apr 2025 #20
You posted it for that very reason. iemanja Apr 2025 #62
No, it doesn't Mossfern Apr 2025 #21
No where did I blame the Jewish community. Pisces Apr 2025 #24
I didn't mean you personally Mossfern Apr 2025 #25
Mob mentality is scary no matter who it is. I think something takes over. This is not about any one group. Pisces Apr 2025 #26
As a woman - yes, scary. Mossfern Apr 2025 #37
Here's some more detail from the NYT... Violet_Crumble Apr 2025 #84
I don't blame the Jewish community iemanja Apr 2025 #63
She doesn't need a reason to wear whatever she wants. TommyT139 Apr 2025 #54
Miscommunication Mossfern Apr 2025 #60
They are harassing her because they are never punished for it questionseverything Apr 2025 #80
The content makes it worse questionseverything Apr 2025 #30
LOLOL "protest" AkFemDem Apr 2025 #34
Who is "they?" Mossfern Apr 2025 #38
I watched the videos and didn't see anything but protest and chanting questionseverything Apr 2025 #39
ah, well then, disappear her to El Salvador stillcool Apr 2025 #33
gawd they're all DISGUSTING Skittles Apr 2025 #35
Another context: They were exercising their right to protest. AloeVera Apr 2025 #43
They had a right to do it, but they also knew it was going to provoke the yeshiva bochurs. Mosby Apr 2025 #44
That kinda sounds like Eko Apr 2025 #45
Ethnicity and faith are irrelevant, right-wingers are going to act like right-wingers. nt NutmegYankee Apr 2025 #22
Hate is ugly regardless of who the haters align with. marble falls Apr 2025 #28
THEY ARE ALL DISGUSTING Skittles Apr 2025 #36
Thugs. Ritabert Apr 2025 #32
Same two groups going back to the same shit sandwich shop for decades is what causes this. Eko Apr 2025 #46
Why do people hate Jews? Mosby Apr 2025 #48
There is without a doubt violence on both sides. Eko Apr 2025 #49
whataboutism ensures it never fucking ends Skittles Apr 2025 #56
False equivalence Starlight27 Apr 2025 #89
Yeah, one jewish person was murdered. Mosby Apr 2025 #92
'Mean things screamed at her'? Violet_Crumble Apr 2025 #94
Why is she masked? Mosby Apr 2025 #95
She explains it in one of the articles I read... Violet_Crumble Apr 2025 #96
I only saw one group there... regnaD kciN Apr 2025 #52
Very true. Eko Apr 2025 #57
it is just pathetic Skittles Apr 2025 #55
Why are people protesting at synagogues? Mosby Apr 2025 #47
Because that's where the guy they were protesting was? EdmondDantes_ Apr 2025 #50
This is not in Brooklyn where Ben Gvir visited. Mosby Apr 2025 #51
Ben Gvir was scheduled to speak at this synagogue that night AloeVera Apr 2025 #58
Round two Mosby Apr 2025 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author AloeVera Apr 2025 #65
I agree that's a threat. Nobody should be speaking like that EdmondDantes_ Apr 2025 #73
Agreed electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #97
Those Hamas supporters need to go Polybius Apr 2025 #53
That's odd. AloeVera Apr 2025 #59
You ARE wrong. Beastly Boy Apr 2025 #66
Perhaps - gasp - it is you who might be obfuscating? AloeVera Apr 2025 #67
Ummm... perhaps not. Gasp. Beastly Boy Apr 2025 #68
I can't believe I read all that. My poor brain. AloeVera Apr 2025 #69
You realize that you are talking about two different synagogues, don't you? Beastly Boy Apr 2025 #71
Aah. The last tool in the tool box. AloeVera Apr 2025 #76
This might have worked on an Upper west side hipster, but not a veteran Brooklynite. Beastly Boy Apr 2025 #82
Let me help clear up your confusion. Here you go: AloeVera Apr 2025 #83
Closer than I expected, but a wrong synagogue nevertheless. And no Ben Gvir in sight. Beastly Boy Apr 2025 #88
One last thing. You missed the irony. AloeVera Apr 2025 #70
It's not the irony that I am missing. Beastly Boy Apr 2025 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author AloeVera Apr 2025 #75
See my response above... AloeVera Apr 2025 #79
Because this is America, we have the right to protest questionseverything Apr 2025 #81
Disgusting SunImp Apr 2025 #61
The antisemites are emboldened. Mosby Apr 2025 #74
There's no excuse for this. Liberal In Texas Apr 2025 #77
Yet there's evidence of excuse-making in this thread... Violet_Crumble Apr 2025 #85
Thank you Starlight27 Apr 2025 #91
Updates from Mayor Adams Mosby Apr 2025 #90
Damn, acting like effin' droogs! Thank goodness that cop got her out of there! electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #98
How many assault and battery's in this minute and 33 seconds? Mosby Apr 2025 #100
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