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CitizenZero

(920 posts) Sat Apr 26, 2025, 06:42 PM Apr 26

We Have To Fight Dirty [View all]

Part of the problem with being liberal or progressive is about being too compassionate. Our enemy is steeped in malice and has no reservations about using dirty tricks. Trump and his allies are skilled at using dirty tricks because they have been using them their entire lives. Trump was trained by the criminal lawyer Roy Cohn and probably recruited (or at least duped) by Russian intelligence a long time ago. Trump and his allies have no problem violating the normal rules of conduct, while we are bound by our dedication to the norms of democracy and the rule of law. This is why America has always had such an effective intelligence service. We have always needed someone on our side that is not afraid of using dirty tricks to defend democracy. So maybe we should take a lesson from that and stop fighting fair and start fighting dirty. It may be the only way to save America.

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We Have To Fight Dirty [View all] CitizenZero Apr 26 OP

just truth telling will do it. no more of this repubs will love us if we bend over BS nt msongs Apr 26 #1

We should have our own propaganda. That's how the Reps started. kerry-is-my-prez Apr 26 #2

Rigging elections is an example of fighting dirty Kaleva Apr 26 #3

I've been hollering about this, for decades. Paladin Apr 26 #4

Right On CitizenZero Apr 26 #6

Blackmail, bribery, death threats are examples of fighting dirty Kaleva Apr 26 #25

Espionage CitizenZero Apr 26 #32

Interesting viewpoint Kaleva Apr 26 #36

We COULD campaign partly on the FACT that the Republican Party is full of child molesters and sex criminals, Jack Valentino Apr 26 #44

Excellent, though I wouldn't call that "fighting dirty," as it's legal. LauraInLA Apr 26 #47

Fighting Dirty CitizenZero Apr 26 #50

The TOPIC is DIRTY, but we have shied away from it far too much.... Jack Valentino Apr 26 #52

Good Example CitizenZero Apr 26 #49

How do we fight dirty? LauraInLA Apr 26 #5

Many Ways CitizenZero Apr 26 #7

Know Your Enemy's Toolkit to Defend Against Him TearsOfDaClowned Apr 26 #30

Good Response CitizenZero Apr 26 #39

By pointing out the obvious problems Inkey Apr 26 #9

I wouldn't have called that "dirty", though. LauraInLA Apr 26 #29

I Would Add CitizenZero Apr 26 #11

ways. )) Tetrachloride Apr 26 #18

See my post Jack Valentino Apr 26 #45

Cause going down that road leads to them. Eko Apr 26 #8

Right CitizenZero Apr 26 #10

Sure, but we are not in an actual war. Eko Apr 26 #12

Maybe CitizenZero Apr 26 #15

"But we sort of are already in a Domestic Cold War" Eko Apr 26 #20

I Don't Think CitizenZero Apr 26 #23

Steve Biko character in a movie said "well, we're at war" Tetrachloride Apr 26 #19

Such a cool dude but he was wrong. Eko Apr 26 #22

If you follow Rogue one Eko Apr 26 #13

No CitizenZero Apr 26 #16

Thats not what you said. Eko Apr 26 #24

I Repeat CitizenZero Apr 26 #26

These were your actual words. Not strawman at all. Eko Apr 26 #28

I Never Said CitizenZero Apr 26 #37

Huh. Eko Apr 26 #38

I Am Talking About CitizenZero Apr 26 #41

huh Eko Apr 26 #42

It Is Fine CitizenZero Apr 26 #46

I never said I wont fight back. Eko Apr 27 #54

Yeah CitizenZero Apr 27 #55

Yes, and trying to turn strengths into weaknesses is what the opposition does. betsuni Apr 27 #56

I never did give anybody hell.I just told the truth & they thought it was hell TearsOfDaClowned Apr 26 #34

Still a lot of folks who just don't get it and never will. BannonsLiver Apr 26 #14

This seems like an appropriate place to quote Nietzsche... JoseBalow Apr 26 #17

Good Quote CitizenZero Apr 26 #21

Sadly We Have Schmoozers & Pragmatists Throughout Our Democratic Leadership TearsOfDaClowned Apr 26 #40

Recommended. H2O Man Apr 26 #27

I read a lot of these Milquetoast responses to oppression, Gordcanuck Apr 26 #31

Sweep the leg...Johny. yourout Apr 26 #33

That's what they want you to do. The only way to beat them is with the truth, the whole truth and nothing but. Blues Heron Apr 26 #35

Democrats need to get rid of their inane and self-destructive obsession with purity and perfection. dalton99a Apr 26 #43

I agree. Time to talk nationally about all the Republican child molesters and sex criminals! Jack Valentino Apr 26 #48

I'm a Democrat First JustAnotherGen Apr 26 #51

We need to take a page from Master Ken. LudwigPastorius Apr 26 #53

And the dream of Both Sides comes true! La la la! betsuni Apr 27 #57